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jeremiah20.9
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: Where would a non-trinitarian fellowship? |
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| I've noticed that there are alot of members of this forum who are non-trinitarian! I was wondering if those of you who fit into this category would describe what kind of fellowship you attend. It would be difficult to find a non-trinitarian fellowship considering that most organized church's teach this 'doctrine'. Not interested in reply's from Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Muslims etc! Only those of you who base your faith and practice on the Bible ALONE!!! |
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theseldomscene
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why?...
and what is it that you mean by trinity?...or trinitarian?... |
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Nobby
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Tss, are you bein' slow again? 
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Pete
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Where would a non-trinitarian fellowship? |
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| jeremiah20.9 wrote: | | Only those of you who base your faith and practice on the Bible ALONE!!! |
I think you just left out Roman Catholics, who do not accept the idea of Sola Scriptura (Bible alone),and they were the ones who invented the concept of the Trinity. |
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TBax
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jeremiah20.9,
Hi, 
Find the religion that has no part of this world's politics and has love for their brothers and their neighbors so that they don't kill them in the wars men make. Find the organization that follows Jesus' command (to go and make disciples) and the example of the first century Christians that preached from door to door. Then you will find the true religion.
Take care.
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jeremiah20.9
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| theseldomscene wrote: | why?...
and what is it that you mean by trinity?...or trinitarian?... |
Why? Because Amos 3:3 says "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" How can one who is convinced that the Bible doesn't teach the 'doctrine' of the trinity walk with one who is convinced that it does?
and what is it that you mean by trinity?... or trinitarian?...
Are you serious? Well, I guess it is true that trinitarians are hardly uniform in belief? |
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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then if you know this...please answer the question....
and amos really has nothing to do with my other question....
as you are looking for people that don't agree with you and pointing out amos for an excuse to ask them about their belief's you already know you don't agree with.... |
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jeremiah20.9
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| theseldomscene wrote: | then if you know this...please answer the question....
and amos really has nothing to do with my other question....
as you are looking for people that don't agree with you and pointing out amos for an excuse to ask them about their belief's you already know you don't agree with.... |
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. Anyway, my original post is pretty simple to understand and answer! It wasn't posted because I wanted to be contentious, but because I was looking for some answers to this very legitimate question! Virtually every organized church claims to be trinitarian, so I wanted to know what one would do for fellowship if they were convinced the Bible didn't teach this 'doctrine'. Not being interested in reply's from those who fellowship with organizations who except books other than the Bible for their faith and practice! |
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theseldomscene
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and once again i find myself asking to explain what you mean by trinitarian...as yes there are many different views of it...if you don't think so...just hang around...so...
until one knows what you consider a trinitarian doctrine...they cannot full say what the differences in their belief and yours is...as you wanted to know...
| Quote: | | I've noticed that there are alot of members of this forum who are non-trinitarian! I was wondering if those of you who fit into this category would describe what kind of fellowship you attend. |
so you must tell me what trinitarian means to you for me to say whether i am one or not...and if i am one...then you are not addressing me...if i am not one...
then i will answer you... |
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lone-traveler
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You know this is a hard subject for me because I see it many different ways...
God the Father spoke the word and the word that the Father spoke became flesh and blood. This is the Son of the Father. The Word. So is the Word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Father the same as the Father or are they seperate entities? And what ties them together but the power of the Father that gives life to the Son.
The Father..speaks breath/ Holy Spirit..and it becomes manifest/Son.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit of the Father incarnate..in the flesh..The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
So are they three seperate entities or are they all the same entity or are they three distinct roles that the one portrays and shows himself?
Is God His own witness?
Hbr 6:13 ¶ For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
Hbr 6:14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
So when Jesus says that He is one witness and the Father is the other witness..then to me it means that Jesus is the physical proof of God's spoken promise to Abraham...
When the Father made promise (of Christ) to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by His own Holy Spirit, saying......
And the "promise" became flesh and dwelt among us...
That's how I understand it anywhoo..
God Bless
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jeremiah20.9
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| theseldomscene wrote: | why?...
and what is it that you mean by trinity?...or trinitarian?... |
Those who believe that the One God is three PERSONS, God the Father, God the son(an unscriptural reference), and God the Holy Spirit(another unscriptural reference)!!! |
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jeremiah20.9
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Where would a non-trinitarian fellowship? |
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| Pete wrote: | | jeremiah20.9 wrote: | | Only those of you who base your faith and practice on the Bible ALONE!!! |
I think you just left out Roman Catholics, who do not accept the idea of Sola Scriptura (Bible alone),and they were the ones who invented the concept of the Trinity. |
My statement definately leaves out Roman Catholics, who practice nothing more than the doctrines of devils and man! |
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jeremiah20.9
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| lone-traveler wrote: | You know this is a hard subject for me because I see it many different ways...
God the Father spoke the word and the word that the Father spoke became flesh and blood. This is the Son of the Father. The Word. So is the Word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Father the same as the Father or are they seperate entities? And what ties them together but the power of the Father that gives life to the Son.
The Father..speaks breath/ Holy Spirit..and it becomes manifest/Son.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit of the Father incarnate..in the flesh..The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
So are they three seperate entities or are they all the same entity or are they three distinct roles that the one portrays and shows himself?
Is God His own witness?
Hbr 6:13 ¶ For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
Hbr 6:14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
So when Jesus says that He is one witness and the Father is the other witness..then to me it means that Jesus is the physical proof of God's spoken promise to Abraham...
When the Father made promise (of Christ) to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by His own Holy Spirit, saying......
And the "promise" became flesh and dwelt among us...
That's how I understand it anywhoo..
God Bless
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So what kind of fellowship do you attend? |
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theseldomscene
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also...jerry...
please explain and those titles being unscriptural references....
i have heard them used...but explain what they are supposed to mean and why they are unscriptural...here they are again...
[quote"you"]the One God is three PERSONS, God the Father, God the son(an unscriptural reference), and God the Holy Spirit(another unscriptural reference)!!![/quote]
so if you could help me gain some kind of insight in to this...tell me what is the title GOD the SON suppose to mean...and why it is not scripural...thanks friend...i really need to know this...  ... |
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jeremiah20.9
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| theseldomscene wrote: | ....
also...jerry...
please explain and those titles being unscriptural references....
i have heard them used...but explain what they are supposed to mean and why they are unscriptural...here they are again...
[quote"you"]the One God is three PERSONS, God the Father, God the son(an unscriptural reference), and God the Holy Spirit(another unscriptural reference)!!! |
so if you could help me gain some kind of insight in to this...tell me what is the title GOD the SON suppose to mean...and why it is not scripural...thanks friend...i really need to know this... ...[/quote]
I don't wish to teach you the Bible. If you can't answer my extremely simple question that I originally posted, then I can't help you! It's one of the simplest questions I've ever asked anyone! Get out your concordance and you'll see that Jesus of Nazareth was never referred to as "God the Son" and the Spirit of God was never referred to as "God the Holy Spirit"! Therefore they are unscriptural references that were never once penned by any writer of the Bible! They are terms that were invented by men outside of the Apostolic Age! Also, to say that God is three persons is unscriptural! If I've misread my Bible, and these terms are indeed used in reference to Jesus of Nazareth and the Holy Ghost, please provide me the verses that I've overlooked!
"The Bible is not complicated. People are complicated...especially those who have been educated beyond their intelligence and/or have been complicated beyond repair."
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