EFFEMINATE

james · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: EFFEMINATE

1 Cor 6:9 - Know you not that the unrighteous shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God? Be not decieved: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, NOR ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

In the KJV effeminate is define as homosexual, and abusers of themselves with mankind is defined as sodomites.( These definitions are noted in the center column of the Bible)

I hear alot of dispute over the homosexual life style when the bible seems to be clear on this issue, it is not okay. There are other scripture which tend to confirm the condemnation of homosexuality.

So my question would be how else can these two terms be viewed and is there scripture to confirm how you may view these terms?

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Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 676

Hi James. Does KJV match the dictionary's definition? Here is what I got:

Effeminate \Ef*fem"i*nate\, a. [L. effeminatus, p. p. of
effeminare to make a woman of; ex out + femina a woman. See
Feminine, a.]
1. Having some characteristic of a woman, as delicacy,
luxuriousness, etc.; soft or delicate to an unmanly
degree; womanish; weak.

2. Womanlike; womanly; tender; -- in a good sense.

Note: Effeminate and womanish are generally used in a
reproachful sense; feminine and womanly, applied to
women, are epithets of propriety or commendation.

Effeminate \Ef*fem"i*nate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Effeminated;
p. pr. & vb. n. Effeminating.]
To make womanish; to make soft and delicate; to weaken.

If we strictly go by this definition, this would mean any male who acts like a woman. It doesn't have to mean homosexual. Not all homosexual men act like women & not all heterosexual men act like men. I know of many heterosexual men who have womanly traits. So this cannot be what Paul is talking about.

It also says in Galations that there is no male or female in Christ Jesus. Jesus says that there is no marriage in the kingdom. What does this tell us? That word "weak" keeps coming up. Why would Paul speak out against a person who is weak? Spiritually weak maybe? Not ready to stand up for God? One who backs down easily & cowers?

What will happen when the mark of the beast is put upon the individuals still left on the earth? Will you be an "effeminate" who will back down & give in to the mark? Or will you be "masculine" & stand up for what you know is right, stand up for God? To boldy declare like the apostles did so long ago, "I follow Jesus!"

lone-traveler · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject:

Effeminate
1 Strong's Number: 3120 Greek: malakos
"soft, soft to the touch" (Lat., mollis, Eng., "mollify," "emollient," etc.), is used (a) of raiment, Mat 11:8 (twice); Luk 7:25; (b) metaphorically, in a bad sense, 1Cr 6:9, "effeminate," not simply of a male who practices forms of lewdness, but persons in general, who are guilty of addiction to sins of the flesh, voluptuous.

Mat 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft [clothing] are in kings' houses.

Luk 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

Amo 7:10 ¶ Then Amaziah the priest of Bethel sent to Jeroboam king of Israel, saying, Amos hath conspired against thee in the midst of the house of Israel: the land is not able to bear all his words.
Amo 7:11 For thus Amos saith, Jeroboam shall die by the sword, and Israel shall surely be led away captive out of their own land.
Amo 7:12 Also Amaziah said unto Amos, O thou seer, go, flee thee away into the land of Judah, and there eat bread, and prophesy there:
Amo 7:13 But prophesy not again any more at Bethel: for it [is] the king's chapel, and it [is] the king's court.

Jhn 4:44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.

Eze 8:1 ¶ And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth [month], in the fifth [day] of the month, [as] I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
Eze 8:2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
Eze 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where [was] the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
Eze 8:4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel [was] there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
Eze 8:5 ¶ Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
Eze 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? [even] the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, [and] thou shalt see greater abominations.
Eze 8:7 ¶ And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.
Eze 8:8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.
Eze 8:9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.
Eze 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
Eze 8:11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

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Abdullah · Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

Well, to the source of Christianity-Christ. Jesus never once condemned homosexuals. He did once quote the OT "a man shall leave his mother and father and the two shall become one flesh". However, the topic in question was divorce, not homosexuality.

I think, perhaps, if one were to ask Jesus what he thought, he'd say something on the lines of: "Well, of course it's wrong, but with all the rape, murder, theft, hunger, and homelessness out there, who really cares what people choose to do in private?"...."

JimD · Bear Cub Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 628

Homosexuality is undoubtably a sin, and God cares deeply about sin, any sin, but cares even more deeply about the sinner. He hates the sin, not the sinner. But unrepented of sin will destroy.
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