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P1234567890
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: The Bush Administration Has Really Hurt America |
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Wow, the Bush administration has really hurt America...
The two main tools that the United States has for projecting its power are its wealth and its military. Because of the Bush administration's stupid attack on Iraq, the military has been overstretched, and countries like Iran are taking advantage of the situation and building nuclear weapons.
Meanwhile, in order to get a sufficient number of recruits for the military, the Pentagon has had to repeatedly decrease standards, which hurts its fighting efficiency. There's an interesting story about this here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2182752
Probably even more worrisome to U.S. patriots is how much the administration has damaged the value of the U.S. dollar. Here is what the last 5 years looks like for the poor greenback:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?from=USD&to=CAD&amt=1&t=5y
For some reason, people believe that Republicans are better with money than Democrats, and that Democrats just love to give all of your hard-earned tax dollars away to homeless people, etc. Well, look at this chart!
Just think about this... The value of the U.S. dollar has dropped by like 35% over the past 5 years. Multiply that out by every single U.S. dollar in existence and the entire wealth of the country, and we're talking TRILLIONS of dollars!
Think about how much wealth that is, simply evaporating!
No foreign enemy could possibly have hurt America as efficiently as the Bush administration has. It's going to take you years if not decades to get the country to the point it was at before they took office!
You guys should put them on trial for dereliction of duty, and maybe even treason!
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"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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eleven
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration Has Really Hurt America |
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| P1234567890 wrote: | Wow, the Bush administration has really hurt America...
The two main tools that the United States has for projecting its power are its wealth and its military. Because of the Bush administration's stupid attack on Iraq, the military has been overstretched, and countries like Iran are taking advantage of the situation and building nuclear weapons.
Meanwhile, in order to get a sufficient number of recruits for the military, the Pentagon has had to repeatedly decrease standards, which hurts its fighting efficiency. There's an interesting story about this here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2182752
Probably even more worrisome to U.S. patriots is how much the administration has damaged the value of the U.S. dollar. Here is what the last 5 years looks like for the poor greenback:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?from=USD&to=CAD&amt=1&t=5y
For some reason, people believe that Republicans are better with money than Democrats, and that Democrats just love to give all of your hard-earned tax dollars away to homeless people, etc. Well, look at this chart!
Just think about this... The value of the U.S. dollar has dropped by like 35% over the past 5 years. Multiply that out by every single U.S. dollar in existence and the entire wealth of the country, and we're talking TRILLIONS of dollars!
Think about how much wealth that is, simply evaporating!
No foreign enemy could possibly have hurt America as efficiently as the Bush administration has. It's going to take you years if not decades to get the country to the point it was at before they took office!
You guys should put them on trial for dereliction of duty, and maybe even treason! |
Oh, how right you are! And the saddest part of this whole thing is the terrorist don't have to do a blooming thing. All they have to do is sit back and watch this financial hemmorage continue. Then come in for the kill.
If anyone thinks we are safer today then before 9/11 you are dreaming!
Just for kicks, let's go back 8 years and revisit Uncle George's big campaign promise. The issue that put him over the edge in the election was the rally of the Christian coalition because Georgie was going to do away with abortion. Remember that?
Has anything even been mentioned about it all this time?
Nahhh.......I didn't think so.
As was said before, just because someone claims to be a Christian, doesn't make it so. Watch their actions.
But heck, it was a gimmick that worked very well for him.
God, please don't let us be duped again by the next "Christian" leader. |
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45degreeN
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: |
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P123 just look at the last few months when the Fed has reduced the value of the dollar three times by simply raising the amount of dollars in the market (I believe it is the M1 money supply)
It makes our exports easier to buy and our imports harder to buy. Theoretically it might just help out our manufacturing sector that has been hurting lately. It will also raise prices for Bush's precious Chinese connection Wal-mart. We'll see wont we.
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just wanted to dust off one of the good old threads which is dedicated to criticizing Bush. His popularity has now dipped to an all-time low for *any* president of the modern era. Here is a comparison of the approval ratings of various presidents minus their disapproval ratings. Bush is at the bottom of the list:
President / Lowest Approval / Highest Disapproval / Approve - Disapprove
Kennedy 56% 30% 26%
Eisenhower 48% 36% 12%
FDR 48% 43% 5%
Ford 39% 45% -6%
Clinton 36% 50% -14%
Johnson 35% 52% -16%
Reagan 35% 56% -21%
Bush 41 29% 60% -31%
Carter 28% 59% -31%
Nixon 24% 66% -42%
Truman 22% 65% -43%
Bush 43 25% 70% -45%
Sorry for the table being a bit messed up, but hopefully everyone here can figure it out.
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-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Here is a picture of how badly the Bush administration has hurt America:
And here's a link showing another way in which the Bush administration has hurt America:
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home
Oh, and here's a video demonstrating yet another way in which the Bush administration messed up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7MvXUDrZ0Q
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
-Steven Weinberg
"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
-Someone who shall remain anonymous. |
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Pondering
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I could use the same graph to argue that Bush had nothing to do it...LEGISLATION and REGULATION come from CONGRESS....for awhile that was Republican controlled...but since 2006 THE DEMS HAVE CONTROLLED the House and it's 50/50 in the Senate...
no one, on either side of the aisle did anything to avoid this....
the difference is, I blame Republicans for being inattentive (laizzes-faire economics "The market will sort itself out")....I blame the Dems for a) personally profiting from b) a corrupt system that they deliberately drove into the ground...
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Pondering wrote: |
the difference is, I blame Republicans for being inattentive (laizzes-faire economics "The market will sort itself out")....I blame the Dems for a) personally profiting from b) a corrupt system that they deliberately drove into the ground... |
Why is it that when Clinton was in the driver's seat, Republicans blamed him for literally *everything*, and when Bush is in the driver's seat, you blame him for literally *nothing*?
The President is the leader, and his party had complete control for a very long time. That's *extremely* relevant to who deserves the blame. You seem to think that the Democrats deserve the lion's share of it. This is a ridiculous position to take.
If you want my opinion, I think you should throw every single governor, senator, congressman, and especially everyone in the White House into Guantanamo Bay as traitors, and then start again from scratch.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
-Steven Weinberg
"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
-Someone who shall remain anonymous. |
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Pondering
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: |
If you want my opinion, I think you should throw every single governor, senator, congressman, and especially everyone in the White House into Guantanamo Bay as traitors, and then start again from scratch. |
ok...fair enough...and there are days when I feel the same  so....point taken.
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RevJP
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I could use the same graph to argue that Bush had nothing to do it...LEGISLATION and REGULATION come from CONGRESS....for awhile that was Republican controlled...but since 2006 THE DEMS HAVE CONTROLLED the House and it's 50/50 in the Senate... |
I was thinking this same thing when watching the debate...
the Pres only submits a budget proposal, congress controls the budget and all that which goes with it.
If one were to really blame anyone for the deficit then truth demands that Congress take the majority of the blame.
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Dust
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | If you want my opinion, I think you should throw every single governor, senator, congressman, and especially everyone in the White House into Guantanamo Bay as traitors, and then start again from scratch. |
This is actually the sort of sentiment that led to the eventual creation of the United States of America.
What it boils down to is....The Ruling Class vs. The People.
Some 232 years ago the people had broken away from the established Ruling Class, formed a more perfect union, and declared their independence.....well, the Ruling Class has returned to power, and I don’t think anything short of what you are talking about in the above quote, P, is going to change it.
I think this is all connected to the history long battle between the King of the North, and the King of the South, as mentioned in.................the Good Book.
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: |
I was thinking this same thing when watching the debate...
the Pres only submits a budget proposal, congress controls the budget and all that which goes with it.
If one were to really blame anyone for the deficit then truth demands that Congress take the majority of the blame. |
Which makes sense, because coming up with the budgets and signing laws are pretty insignificant steps. 
In any case, Congress was Republican during most of Bush's term. Take your pick: Bad Republican President or Bad Republican Congress, and then explain to me once again why you think Republicans are good.
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-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
-Someone who shall remain anonymous. |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Dust wrote: |
This is actually the sort of sentiment that led to the eventual creation of the United States of America.
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I know. I'm a big fan of the Founding Fathers. You guys should totally go back to their mode of thinking.
If they could be resurrected and put in charge they would immediately do three things:
1. Put checks and balances in place against corporations.
2. Regulate lobbyists in an extreme way.
3. Outlaw media consolidation.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
-Steven Weinberg
"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
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doctrellor
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| P1234567890 wrote: |
In any case, Congress was Republican during most of Bush's term. Take your pick: Bad Republican President or Bad Republican Congress, . |
Yeah, the War Party grew a spine for once in 8 *Holy Censor, Batman* years ..
But I know people are still gonna chop them down and people will vote for a bunch of spineless idiots who played dead and did whatever the dictator-in-chief wanted them to do
So neither party deserves any respect ..
One wants us on the battlefield dying of depleted Uranium .. and the other wants to tax us to slavery ...
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Economy update.... Here is a picture of how badly the U.S. economy is doing:
Tanenbaum has a scary analysis of how badly the Bush administration has hurt America:
| Quote: | | For example, General Motors stock was off 31% to $4.76 a share yesterday. The Bush administration has turned the budget surpluses inherited from Bill Clinton into massive deficits financed by borrowing money from foreigners, especially in Asia. This means that Asian countries, especially China, own hundreds of billions of dollars worth of treasury bills. Now suppose the Chinese government decides it wants to get into the car manufacturing business so it makes a deal with Toyota, now the world's largest car manufacturer, to buy GM outright for a song and move its factories to China to be operated by Toyota but employing Chinese workers. All they keep is the U.S. dealer network and millions of American jobs are lost. If the next President nixes the purchase of GM, the Chinese sell their treasury bills and the dollar collapses. This is not science fiction any more. Which candidate is better prepared to deal with stuff like this could determine the election. |
Wow, in just 8 years Bush has totally wrecked your country!
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-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
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RevJP
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| P wrote: | | Which makes sense, because coming up with the budgets and signing laws are pretty insignificant steps. |
I don't think I understand your point. The President is not required by law to submit a budget proposal, creating and approving the national budget is the responsibility of Congress - as far as signing laws are concerned, the President can only sign into law that which the Congress has given him/her. If he/she vetos the proposed law, Congress has the ability to override that veto.
In any case, Congress was Republican during most of Bush's term.
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From wiki:
For most part between 1995 and 2007, the Republicans controlled both houses. In the wake of the unpopularity of President Clinton's impeachment trial the 107th Congress (2001-2003) saw the Democrats and Republicans split control of the US Senate 50-50, ending effectively tied; though Republican Vice-President Dick Cheney did have the tie breaking vote in the Senate during the first four months of 2001 as well. In May 2001, Republican US Senator from the state of Vermont, Jim Jeffords, ended his affiliation with the Republican Party and became an Independent. After departing from the Republican Party, Jeffords agreed to caucus with the Democrats and control of the Senate switched back to the Democrats once again.
The 108th Congress (2003-2005) saw the Senate return to a GOP majority of 51-49, as Republican President George W Bush had gained some popularity for his fight against Al Qaeda terrorists. In 2006, opposition to Bush's continuation of the Iraq War had grown to new heights. As a result, the 110th Congress saw the Democrats regain majority control of both the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives. |
| Quote: | | Take your pick: Bad Republican President or Bad Republican Congress, and then explain to me once again why you think Republicans are good. |
I would ask you to provide some support for your assumption of what I think.
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