The Heresy of Johovah's Winesses

habeshaw · Growing Guppy Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 41

Some thing About Jehovah's Witnesses and their belife.
I got this info from the Coptic Orthodox patriarch.H.Pope Shenoda 3.

1st. From where it comes from, who establises it, and how it is established Historical Background

Jehovah’s Witnesses are a group which appeared in the
second half of the nineteenth century. Their founder,
Charles Russell, was born in 1854 in Pennsylvania, U.S.A.

Russell was a Christian, but was influenced in his youth by
Arian and Seventh-Day Adventist teaching, as well as the ideas of some atheists. From amongst all this mixture, he formed his doctrine around the year 1872 and published it in the United States of America. He was able to collect a fortune worth approximately five million dollars, which he used for industrial and commercial projects.

His wife sued him on the grounds of marital betrayal at the Hamilton court which ruled in her favour, making him pay a fine and approving her divorce application. Some farmers also commenced proceedings against him on the grounds of fraud and swindling because he sold to them wheat which he called, ‘miracle wheat’ at a very high price, claiming that it was from the holy land and that it was many times more abundant than the normal harvest. {Of course non of this was true, the wheat was
normal American wheat.}

In 1878 he renounced all Christian doctrine and in 1879 he published the ‘Watch Tower’ magazine, and thus this name distinguished the publications and societies of Jehovah’s Witnesses. In the year 1884 he incorporated the “Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society”.

Russell died in 1916 and was succeeded by Judge Joseph
Rutherford.

Their False Prophecies

One of the most amazing doctrines preached by Jehovah’s Witnesses is that dealing with the Second Coming. Russell said that the world would end in 1914 with the Second Coming of Christ and that the Jews would be assembled together and govern the earth. However, the prophecy was not fulfilled and he died shortly afterwards in 1916. Jehovah’s Witnesses {then} changed their thoughts to the following:

They said that the Lord Jesus Christ did not actually physically come in 1874, but did so spiritually, and that He commenced ‘harvesting’ in 1878, gathering the ‘chosen’. In the year 1914 the Father (Jehovah) enthroned Him and Judgement began.

Hence, many wrote their wills and left their riches to Jehovah’s Witnesses in preparation for Judgement and the end of the world.

As for Russell’s successor, Rutherford, he said that
Abraham, the father of the prophets, would come to the
world with a group of prophets in 1925 and he prepared a palace in California to receive them which cost $75 000. He dwelt with his wife in this palace awaiting their visitors, the prophets who, of course, have not come till now.

that is it for now, What a tragedy!!!
After a while i will try to show some of thier belife and how contradict with the bible

ChristianWoman1 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 290

a tragedy indeed Crying or Very sad

I have a very dear frien who is a JW...we often discuss the diferences in our faith and it saddens me deeply...she has no hope of heaven and does not believe in hell Crying or Very sad

JW's are even forbidden to to step one foot inside a church...it's quite a religion to follow Crying or Very sad

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Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think.
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TBax · King of the Jungle Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1965

habeshaw,

I saw the web site you pulled that information from. That site is not an accurate source of information. That information you gave contains half truths, and misrepresentations. Personally, I know "Miracle Wheat" is misrepresented here. It wasn't claimed to have come from "the holy land", or sold by Bro. Russell, but was termed "Miracle Wheat" by the original grower of this unusual strain of wheat. Brother Russell didn't sell it but simply reported on it. Here are the actual facts as these lies have been circulating for some time:

TBax · King of the Jungle Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1965

ChristianWoman1,

We believe in "Hell", but not that humans are "forever tortured" there, or are even consciously aware of anything. Hell is mankinds common grave. We sleep there until Jehovah resurrects us from there. Very Happy

The Bible talks about the time when hell is emptied and then destroyed. Would you like to see that scripture?

Smile

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habeshaw · Growing Guppy Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 41

SOME OF THEIR HERESIES REGARDING CHRIST

Despite their belief that the Lord Jesus Christ is a god, and that He is a mighty god (Isaiah 9:6), they do not consider that He is the Almighty God, {hence implying that they believe in polytheism.}

Jehovah’s Witnesses say that the bowing of the Magi before our Lord Jesus Christ proves that they were led by Satan.

They say that Christ was created and pre-existed in heaven. The purpose for His coming down from heaven is to be a witness to the kingdom of Jehovah. In this way they fall into the heresy of Arius which was anathematised by the Nicene Ecumenical Council in 325 A.D. Saint Athanasius was the hero who defended the Divinity of Christ there.

They say that the Lord Jesus Christ took the Divine Nature in Baptism. This, of course, is against Christ’s ability to create: “All things were made through Him” and “He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him” (John 1); how could He then create the world if He is not God?

Jehovah’s Witnesses say that the Lord Jesus Christ does not have an immortal soul, but that He gained immortality as a reward for His success in examination and His loyalty to His Father until death. They say that Christ was not immortal at the beginning of His creation, thus meaning that eternal life is dependent upon eternal obedience. However, the time came when Jehovah (God) granted his son immortality, after a test of
obedience. This is impossible, because how can Christ be
without an immortal soul, when He is the One who created everything, “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made” (John 1:3).

They also say that Christ did not rise in flesh, and did not
ascend to heaven in flesh, but that His crucified Body was taken out from the tomb and hidden by the angel with the penetrating power of God and that He arose in spirit only. Naturally, this is against the saying of the Lord Jesus Christ to His disciples after the Resurrection, “Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not
have flesh and bones as you see I have ... And He took it (fish) and ate in their presence” (Luke 24:39-43). {Furthermore}, He let Thomas touch the place of His wounds (John 20:27-29).

But, The actual meaning of resurrection is that it is a resurrection of the body because the spirit does not die; it is the body which is resurrected after the spirit’s reunion with it. Therefore, if the body does not rise, then there is no resurrection at all.

EThey {say} that Christ did not ascend to heaven with a
disfigured body, because if He did then He would be less than the angels. We do not see Christ’s wounds as a disfigurement of His Body, but as a sign of His love for and Redemption of us; we say with Isaiah the prophet, “... and by His stripes we are healed” (Isaiah 53:5).

The Book of Revelations states that He was seen in heaven in the appearance of “a Lamb as though it had been slain” (Revelations 5:6), and that the Priests worshipped Him, saying “...You are worthy to take the scroll (the Bible) and to open its seals; for You were slain, and have redeemed us to God by Your blood” (Revelations 5:9).

TBax · King of the Jungle Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1965

habeshaw,

Do you want to have a discussion, or copy and paste the lies and half truths from a web site?

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IS JESUS CHRIST THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL ?

Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael, and this belief is expressed in their book, This Means Everlasting Life, which is their commentary on Revelations 12:13-19:5. The Harp of God is their commentary on Daniel 12:1 and Salvation is their commentary on Revelations 12:7-9.

In Reply to this:

Saint Paul the Apostle clarified that the Divinity of Christ is much higher than that of angels. In Hebrews 1:3-14, he presented proof of this in the following points:

(1) The sitting of Christ on the right hand of God on high
(Hebrews 1:3). This fact is also mentioned in Mark 16:19 and Acts 7:56. The Father said to the Son, “Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool” (Hebrews 1:13 and Psalm 110:1).

(2) The angels worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ in
Hebrews 1:6. This worshipping was also mentioned in
Philippians 2:10.

(3) There is witness in the book of Psalms to Christ when it says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom” (Psalm 45:6), whereas it is said about the angels, “Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire” (Psalm 104:4).

(4) Christ is ‘the Creator’ in Psalm 102:25-27. This is also mentioned in John 1:3, “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made” and “He was in the world, and the world was made through Him” (John 1:10). As long as He created all things, then this includes the angels, amongst whom is the Archangel Michael.

(5) It was said about the Lord Jesus Christ, “You have put all things under His feet” (Psalm 8:6 and Hebrews 2:8), whereas, “He has not put the world....insubjection to angels” (Hebrews 2:5). However, the Lord Jesus Christ said about Himself, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth” (Matthew 28:18). This authority, of course, includes authority over angels.

We wish to add the following points to all of this:

(1) It was said about the Archangel Michael in his contention with the devil that he “dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, ‘The Lord rebukeYou!’” (Jude 9), whereas, the Lord Jesus Christ rebuked the devil many times (Mark 1:25, 27). He also cast out demons from many people and He gave His disciples authority to cast out demons (Matthew 10: 1, 8 and Luke 10:17).

(2) It was said about the Lord Jesus Christ that, “(He) made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a servant” (Philippians 2:7) whereas the angel is a servant to God by his nature (Revelations 19:10).

(3) It was said about the angels that they are sons of God (Job 1:6 and 38:7). As for Christ, He is the Only Son (John 3:16 & 18; 1:18 and 1 John 4:9) which means that He is the only One of His Nature and Essence.

(4) The Lord Jesus Christ said that He and the Father are one (John 10:30), a statement which neither angel nor archangel could dare make.

(5) Neither the Archangel Michael nor any of the other
archangels were described with the characteristics which are unique to God alone, such as His omnipresence, immortality, ability to create and reading thoughts.

(6) It was said about the Lord Jesus Christ that the angels are “His angels” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27 and 24:31). This means that they all conform to Him, including the Archangel Michael.

Another point which we can add is that Jehovah’s Witnesses mix between the Lord being an angel and His
appearance in the form of an angel. The Lord’s occasional appearance in the Old Testament in the
form of an angel does not mean that He is an angel, for He also appeared in the form of a man, as in Genesis 32: 24-30... does this mean that God is a man?

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