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Yehushuan King Kong

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2793 Location: Charismatic
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Brainwashing |
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I had wanted to say that I will most likely be taking a sabbatical – a hiatus – not right away, but shortly; because in my conversations with Niall I’ve begun to realize that I no longer care about what other people believe (except for a remnant of one or two) and that’s not the spirit an apostle (think evangelist or pastor) should have.
The failure of sentience within the human race is just too overwhelming, and I have become alarmed over certain recent developments in neuroscience that have caused me to conclude that our resources are spread too thinly, and that our safeguards are no longer adequate. In other words, the pied piper takes his children underground.
However, with regards to the comment on brainwashing, I felt it meet to post the following link and see what reaction it may engender. While not precisely (if at all) fitting the parameters of “Bible Debate” I don’t frequent other forums than this one. If the moderators think is appropriate to move this thread, that’s fine by me, just try to make sure I know where it winds up (if y’all could be so kind).
What started my four month inquiry into 911. (link)
*You will need the sound turned on*
Yehushuan _________________ There must be a God; Natural Selection would have gotten rid of you a long time ago. |
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2655 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Conspiracy central got to him and he is down for the count _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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JB Tiger
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 817
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Yehu,
I think that is why Jesus tried to get away. In Ministry, I have come to places that I didn't like. It was then that I realized the need to go to the Mountains and get renewed. We will miss you down here in the valley but, we all need the mountain.
God Bless and thanks for all your work
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HeKkLeR King Kong

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 2280 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes it is better to cut one's losses and run.
The big question is, though: Will the pompons follow the cheerleader, or the cheerer? _________________ Peace
The HeKkLeR |
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Yehushuan King Kong

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2793 Location: Charismatic
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| 45degreeN wrote: | | Conspiracy central got to him and he is down for the count |
Well now THAT's a complete misrepresentation if I've ever read one.
The query I've made into 911 was three years ago, and not many of you know I had been employed in (how shall we say) a certain inner circle of the military industrial complex, meaning - I have contacts. I was incredulous if not down right derisive of conspiratists and I happened to have made the mistake of ridiculing it to someone still in the weapons game. I was stunned at his simple even calm reply, "you might want to look into it some more. Why was there a nuclear radiation hazmat team at the PA crash site?"
Since then, I've come to see certain parallels between people who reject the gospel and people who reject the supposed "911 conspiracy" - not that the topics have anything to do with one another, but that a person's ability to handle astonishing and controversial material seems to just follow the same thinking patterns.
It is no more a conspiracy to acknowledge certain facts of the 911 false flag event than it is to recognize that many doctrines are based upon incorrect translations.
My impending hiatus and the link are not connected whatsoever, and I was a bit dismayed to find only replies drooling over my absence as opposed to any substantive comment on the link. Then it occurred to me that not many are able to engage in substantive discussion of 911 anymore than they are able to adequately translate the Greek texts of the New Testament or relate any anecdote of contact with the real demons that are described in the Holy Writ they believe to be true.
Yehushuan
(Oh wait... that's right....I don't care....)
 _________________ There must be a God; Natural Selection would have gotten rid of you a long time ago. |
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HeKkLeR King Kong

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 2280 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Yehu wrote: | | Since then, I've come to see certain parallels between people who reject the gospel |
Can you please define "rejecting the gospel"? I' am totally at a loss that you would pompously write this.
I mean, anyone who says that books in the bible are forgeries... anyone who does not accept God's Word, but truly believes that any and all Scripture is flawed if it does not fit their personal agendas... anyone who dismisses the authority of God's Word and puts their own words above and beyond God's Word... anyone who adds to and takes away from God's Word...
... would a person like that not be defined as a person "rejecting the gospel"??
Oh... or are you talking about the gospel that you make up as you go along? _________________ Peace
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JB Tiger
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 817
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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HeKkLer,
Where in the scriptures is the Bilbe referred to as God's word. I have been looking for references that cover that thought and just can't seem to find any. |
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2655 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Well JB have you ever read the Old testament? The OT prophets would start by saying thus says the Lord and the following words were from God Himself. Like Moses who wrote those ten commandments from God's telling him.
Other material was written by the priests in furtherance of His rituals, still others were histories of God's people.
Only someone willingly ignorant would not understand what the word of God was. _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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JB Tiger
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Weren't they referred to as scriptures and not the word? |
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45degreeN King Kong
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2655 Location: Salem Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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'scriptures' is just another way of saying writings. But the words are from God and about God's people. They have mostly been accepted as Holy writings nearly from the beginning of Moses time. _________________ My boss is a Jewish carpenter.
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HeKkLeR King Kong

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 2280 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| JB wrote: | HeKkLer,
Where in the scriptures is the Bilbe referred to as God's word. I have been looking for references that cover that thought and just can't seem to find any. |
I am not in the very least surprised.
2 Timothy 3:15-1715 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
The Scriptures are also called "Holy Scriptures", referring to the Holy Bible. Nothing is Holy, but what God makes Holy.
Revelation 22:18-19 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Good replies, 45degreeN.  _________________ Peace
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JB Tiger
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 817
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hekkler,
Here we go again. If you looked at my question, you wouldn't have given me this answer.
Here is the question.
Where in the scriptures is the Bible referred to as God's word. I have been looking for references that cover that thought and just can't seem to find any.
Here is your answer.
I am not in the very least surprised. Rolling Eyes
2 Timothy 3:15-17
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
That text doesn't adequately answer my question. That talks about Scriptures, not the word of God.
You then offer me another off the hook answer. Let's take a look.
Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Again this text doesn't adequately answer my question. Where does either of these texts refer to the word of God? They don't. They refer to scriptures.
Words of prophecy is different than the word of God. |
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Yehushuan King Kong

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2793 Location: Charismatic
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| HeKkLeR wrote: | I' am totally at a loss that you would pompously write this. |
And your gracious manner just makes me bubbly all over with eagerness to answer.
(Then again who am I to disagree that you are a total loss?)
Yehu
Yet I just don't understand why you of all people would bow down to the authority of the Catholic Church for deciding which books ought to have been included in the canon or not. When Paul supposedly wrote "scripture" he meant the LXX. _________________ There must be a God; Natural Selection would have gotten rid of you a long time ago. |
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Yehushuan King Kong

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2793 Location: Charismatic
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Far be it from me to dissuade a discussion on what the phrase "word of God" means, but seriously -
Isn't there any response on the link I posted?
Yehu _________________ There must be a God; Natural Selection would have gotten rid of you a long time ago. |
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HeKkLeR King Kong

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 2280 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Now now, Yehu.
You know that it is all done in love, as scripture states.
A sharp rebuke is better than hidden love. And since you plan on taking leave, I had to push you around a little, before you take off. Judas used a kiss. I throw jabs... just to let you know I'm for real.
May God bless you on each path you step.  _________________ Peace
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