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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: Dealing w/my son |
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Haven't been active around the board lately b/c trying to deal with a few things here at home & have only had time to read things. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things but I just wanted to reach out & ask for prayers for my son. His left eye keeps getting inflamed & red since July, this being the 4th time we've had to take him to the eye specialist. The doc had said back over the summer that if this "infection" keeps repeating, that he would look into seeing if this infection keeps coming back b/c of something else going on. He talked today about some kind of systemic disease, auto-immune diseases & I left there w/my head swarming.
The doc took blood & my son Justin will be going for an MRI shortly to dig deeper to find out what's happening. He's only 15. Please pray that we're not dealing w/anything too serious here. I do believe in my heart that we are dealing w/something, but what that something is, is beyond my knowledge at this point. This child has been through so much since he's been born. He was born w/his twin sister at 26 weeks instead of 40 (3 months premature), was on oxygen for 7 months, steroids, heart monitor, you name it. She faired well considering. He got the blunt end of the deal. He's also dealing w/the beginnings of what I see as schizophrenia. And part of me asks why? Why has his life been so difficult? It's normal to question God at times I guess. Then I'm reminded of the book of Job & I know that God has a special purpose in mind for Justin. What that is I don't know yet but I know he'll be great w/God's guidance. God's will will be accomplished in him some day.
Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Be blessed today. |
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pastor2022 Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Yvette,
My goodness that's a lot for that young man to have been through and to be going through (as well as you you Mom!). I will certainly be praying for him and you as ya'll seek to find out what's going on and causing these problems. I pray that God will give all of you strength and peace in the midst of this time and that He will give wisdom and insight to the doctors. We love you here and are praying for all of you. God bless. |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Dealing w/my son |
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| Evee wrote: | Haven't been active around the board lately b/c trying to deal with a few things here at home & have only had time to read things. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things but I just wanted to reach out & ask for prayers for my son. His left eye keeps getting inflamed & red since July, this being the 4th time we've had to take him to the eye specialist. The doc had said back over the summer that if this "infection" keeps repeating, that he would look into seeing if this infection keeps coming back b/c of something else going on. He talked today about some kind of systemic disease, auto-immune diseases & I left there w/my head swarming.
The doc took blood & my son Justin will be going for an MRI shortly to dig deeper to find out what's happening. He's only 15. Please pray that we're not dealing w/anything too serious here. I do believe in my heart that we are dealing w/something, but what that something is, is beyond my knowledge at this point. This child has been through so much since he's been born. He was born w/his twin sister at 26 weeks instead of 40 (3 months premature), was on oxygen for 7 months, steroids, heart monitor, you name it. She faired well considering. He got the blunt end of the deal. He's also dealing w/the beginnings of what I see as schizophrenia. And part of me asks why? Why has his life been so difficult? It's normal to question God at times I guess. Then I'm reminded of the book of Job & I know that God has a special purpose in mind for Justin. What that is I don't know yet but I know he'll be great w/God's guidance. God's will will be accomplished in him some day.
Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Be blessed today. |
dear Yvette,
My heart goes out to Justin, and to you and the rest of the family.
I am praying for him, but especially for you.
May I help?
This will also help a lot of readers.
God wants us to ask why at all times and at any time--since kids ask why and we are GKs: God's Kids.
Mt 18:1-3.
Why does God want us to ask why?
Because when we know the why,
we can bear any how or what. 1 cor 13:7.
WHY bad things happen:
God being a loving father who loves everything,
wnats us to love everything.
So when we hate anything or person,
He will send that very thing or person we hate on us to get us to love it---which is just to say the words: I love it!---while allowing us to NOT want it.
see?
Please read Ezekiel 23:28, Job 3:25 and 1 John 4:18 next.
So all you need to do is realise that even Justin will sacrifice himself and be sacrificed in Love by God IF it will help his mom to love herself so that his mom wd love him---even more.
see?
God's special purpose for Justin is, guess who? You.
Please re-read what you said Justin will be at his purpose.
So here are some questions to ask yourself just based on your own words above: Remember that you don't have to want anything, but u have to LOVE all things so that it wd be IN GOD's LOVE that you do not want anything.
Do you love or hate yourself as a child?
Do you love or hate yourself as inactive?
Do you love or hate yourself as blind?
Do you lvoe or hate yourself as infected?
Do you love or hate infections?
Do you love or hate diseases?
Do you love or hate yourself as diseased or as uneasy?
Do you love or hate yourself as premature or immature?
Do you love or hate yourself as unfair? see Mat 5:43-48.
Do you love or hate yourself as blunt?
Do you lvoe or hate yourself as schizophrenic?
Do you love or hate yourself as difficult?
Do you love or hate difficulties or difficult people?
Do you love or hate yourself as abnormal or unnatural?
Do you love or hate yourself as cursed?
If you answered any with 'Hate,' that is what you have to repent of by loving it--just by saying: I love myself as whatever.
NB: If you answered any with 'hate,'
and you also correctly obviously love yourself as the opposite words,
then that is why J is getting that Love-Hate schizo attitude from, which is then indirectly affecting his mind and the eyes that are directly connected to his brain.
Makes sense?
J sincerely learned that double-hearted attitude from you as you sincerely taught it to him as your mom did to you as ---ad infinitum...
you not realsing that you were teaching him to hate you, and he not realising that to hate you, he first had to hate himself.
see?
Now please read: James 1:8 and 2 Samuel 13:15 and Matthew 5:43-48.
Then with that Godly attitude of Love in permanent place as the answer to all WHYs and to any WHY,
all your burdens will be lighter and bearable.
Matt 11:28-30. 1 Cor 13:7. Matthew 12:34-37.
Please ask any questions.
Then that will show you that Justin will or shd get better....since you corrected the key problem. The schizo will defintely go away.
Like with Jacob's hip, God may leave J's eyes affected.
But hopefully not--especially since you caught it in time as per God's will.
God has big things in store for YOU, Justin's mom, not necessarily for him, since he is obviously using Justin to check you out as he used Isaac to check Abraham's attitude out. see gen 22.
Hope that is encouraging to you.
with all Love and R that answers all whys,
atoz |
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Nobby Board - Admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Yvette, so sad to hear your boy Justin has had so much sickness in his life. Our God is a healing God & i pray for Justin & his mom. God just place yout srme around Justin & heal him! Heal this infection that keeps coming back! I ask in Jesus name. Amen.
Love you sis,
Nobby |
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Plotinus Tiger
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Yvette, I will pray for Justin -- for his health and happiness. May you find whatever strength you need to sustain yourself through these difficult times. |
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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Atoz,
It'll take me a while to digest through your post. You talk in what seems like riddles & it takes a while for the information to sink in sometimes.
I can answer this right away though. I know why bad things happen. It is to strengthen us, to teach us something, to mold us & shape us into the people we become. Sometimes the road gets tiring though but I also remember the poem Footprints & I let Him carry me often. Who doesn't like to be cuddled by their Daddy?
Thanks so much the rest of you for your prayers & positive thoughts. I cherish them. I have come to love each of you on this forum. God bless. |
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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Atoz,
I really do not understand what it is you're trying to say. Sometimes my mind gets weary of trying to decipher your "codes". What you were saying about schizophrenia isn't quite on the mark. Schizophrenia does not come through the eyes to cause an infection in the eyes. It is a thought disorder. And it shows its development in the teenage years but isn't diagnosed until much later in males.
The eye infection is a completely separate issue. To update, Justin went for his MRI. The nurse said he laid perfectly still & listened to the CD he brought along. He was a little nervous but he got through it. And he did it by himself. My husband went w/him but wasn't allowed in the room b/c he has heart problems.
Now we just wait till Monday to get the results.
Sitting on my hands in anxiousness,
Evee |
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Diane Cobra
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Evee,
I'm praying for Justin and you and your family, sis.
Love, Di |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi Evee,
My riddles or paridddles are just JC's parables or rabbles!
Do you see the similarity?
A rabble is a riddle.
What I was saying is that schizophrenia starts with the Double-minded Love-Hate Attitude for words & thoughts in the brain which houses the mind, which then could cause eye-problems since the eyes are directly connected to the brain in which the schizophrenic words and thoughts are.
See?
Then those eye-problems could 'recause' more schizophrenia by Love for sight and Hate for blindness, which compounded schizophrenia would cause more eye problems which wd cause more ---- ad infinitum, in Hate's vicious circle.
The eyes being directly connected to the brain is
why we call the nearsightedness of being able to see near the problem when NOT being able to see far IS the problem,
and
why we call the farsightedness of being able to see far the problem when the problem is NOT being able to see near!
Evee: I really do not understand what it is you're trying to say. Sometimes my mind gets weary of trying to decipher your "codes".
A: the only code I speak in Love. So I understand why if you hate any words you would have hard time decoding what you read that I write.
Please do not feel bad about that: it's normal--until you start to love every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Mt 4:4.
Evee:
What you were saying about schizophrenia isn't quite on the mark.
A: I understand why u say that. See above for what I actually said.
Evee: Schizophrenia does not come through the eyes to cause an infection in the eyes.
A: Exactly, it starts in the mind with Love for some words and Hate for the other words.
Mt 6:24.
Evee: It is a thought disorder.
A: Exactly, an attitude disorder, or disorder of the first 2 thoughts, the first thought being what an attitude is.
Evee: And it shows its development in the teenage years but isn't diagnosed until much later in males.
A:
Yes, when the teen decides to join the adults who have the bad attitude of Hate and get more hateful is when it naturally gets worse.
It can be diagnosed by any parent whenever that parent hears her child saying 'I hate this and I hate that.' It normally happens whenever the child hears and repeats mom and dad saying 'I hate this and I hate that.'
Evee:The eye infection is a completely separate issue.
A: Not necessarily: see above.
Evee: To update, Justin went for his MRI. The nurse said he laid perfectly still & listened to the CD he brought along. He was a little nervous but he got through it. And he did it by himself.
A: So far, so good.
Evee: My husband went w/him but wasn't allowed in the room b/c he has heart problems.
A: Sorry to hear.
Evee: Now we just wait till Monday to get the results.
A: Praying for J and dad and mom.
Evee:Sitting on my hands in anxiousness,
A: Love yourself as anxious so your anxiety will be in Love: that Love wd make u half as anxious.
Mt 11:28-30.Prov 16:1-7.
With Love and Respect,
Atoz
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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Atoz,
I know you mean well, but I really do think you're completely off the mark w/this one. Do you work in the mental health industry? And BTW, I love words in all languages so I really don't see your point.
Di,
Thank you for your prayers. |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Evee: Atoz,
I know you mean well..
Atoz: that's good and you love those who mean well, right?
But do you also love those who mean bad or evil or ill?
To love one who means well but hate the other who means ill is the first schizophrenia or schizoid attitude or split mentality or split personality.
See Mt 5:43-48.
Evee:.......but I really do think you're completely off the mark w/this one.
Atoz: that's good.
But do you love me as off the mark and as on the mark as God does?
To hate me as off the mark but love me as on the mark is the mark of schizophrenia and is to miss the Mark of Love or to miss the Mark of God who loves you as on and as off the mark.
Do you see?
Do you love yourself
for good and for bad,
for better and for worse,
for richer and for poorer,
for healthier and for sicker?
Or,
Do you love yourself as good but hate yourself as bad,
love yourself as rich but haye yourself as poor,
love yourself as well but hate you as ill?
Evee: Do you work in the mental health industry?
Atoz: I work in the same mental health industry as JC: The Industry of the Psyche of the Messiah or Messpsychology or Messicology.smile
See Philippians 2:5.
80% of hospital beds are occupied with patients with E.I.I.'s: Emotionally Induced Illnesses.
Better named:
Hate-Emotionally Induced Illnesses:H.E.I.I.'s.
Evee: And BTW, I love words in all languages..
Atoz: that's very good.
But do you love all the words and their opposites in any one of those languages?
To love yourself as just but hate yourself as unjust is the mark of schizophrenia since God loves you as just and as unjust and so He has the Mark of Uniphrenia or of Wholophrenia or of the United or Unified Mind that He commands you to have: Mt 5:48.
Do you love all 26 of the letters of the Alphabet?
So does it make any consonant sonance and any sense to hate any words made up or composed of those loved letters or Love-letters?
See Titus 1:15.
Evee:...so I really don't see your point.
atoz: that's good.
But do love yourself as blind and as pointless?
To love yourself as sighted and as pointed but to hate yourself as blind and as pointless is a mark of schizophrenia.
God's point is the Point of Love because He loves you as pointed and as pointless to teach you to love yourself as pointed and as pointless so that you too wd be perfect as He is perfect:
Love-Perfect or Love-Pointed or Love-phrenic.Mt 5:48.
Please ask any more questions or make any comments.
I appreciate them.
With all Love & Respect,
Atoz
The messicologist or agapologist who loves messes, messy people and apologists, smile |
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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Your whole post shows you know nothing about schizophrenia. My son does not hate anything; I don't hate anything & that's the last I'm going to talk about this. I would like to reserve this thread for updates & prayers. Thanks, atoz. |
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wilber Banned
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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My prayers are with you for tomorrow and the future Evee.
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Evee Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks wilber. |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Evee wrote: |
Your whole post shows you know nothing about schizophrenia.
My son does not hate anything;
I don't hate anything
&
that's the last I'm going to talk about this.
I would like to reserve this thread for updates & prayers.
Thanks, atoz. |
Thanx in Love, Evee.
Praying in Love for you and Justin and family.
With God's Love for myself as schizophrenic so I love all schizophrenics as myself,
Atoz |
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