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Maverick1337
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: An odd website... Reply with quote

I found this "church" website, I won't mention the name b/c im not 100% sure on the policy for this forum about links n such, but it was very disturbing. They sell stickers, t-shirts,other clothing, posters etc, that use ALOT of vulgarity and straight-forwardness. All the things they were saying WERE in fact true but very lude. Don't get me wrong, about 90% of the sins Jesus died for were probably mine, but this is even beyond what I would find humorous.

(Another thing is they were pointing out the sinful nature in recent "Veggie Tales" toddler toys that came out, that only an adults perverted nature would see, but protesting them saying that we shouldn't give kids these kinda toys. I very, highly doubt my son would even THINK of this kinda toy in a perverted way until he got alot older and the last of his worries will be playing with an old toy that resembled something perverted .)

Is there anything in the bible suggesting how God's Word is supposed to taught? Or is it just any way you can get the word out? This is 1/2 completed b/c my 1 yr. old son is trying to help me type. But if I remember anymore I was gonna ask, I'll add new posts. Thanks

~God Bless!!~

Edit:The more I read, the more I want to vomit. But I think I've heard of these people on T.V.
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atoz
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maverick1337 wrote:

.....
Is there anything in the bible suggesting how God's Word is supposed to taught?
Or is it just any way you can get the word out?

...... Thanks

~God Bless!!~

Edit:The more I read, the more I want to vomit. But I think I've heard of these people on T.V.


Heya m1337,

I know what you mean and how you feel.

But these verses will help you to see what God is doing:
God lists 4 specific ways He gets the Gospel out, and then says in every way is the way He gets it out:

Philippians 1:
15[1]Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife;

and [2] some also of good will:

16[3] The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:

17[4] But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

18What then? [Your question]
notwithstanding,
every way,
whether in pretence,
or in truth,

Christ is preached;
and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Do you see how you can rejoice in what that church is doing while also being sad?

Do you see why God wd do that?

Do you lvoe liars?

with Love and R,
atoz
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Maverick1337
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I see what you're saying. I do not think this is some delusion they have, or think they're wrong.(This applies to different types of Christians that I don't necessarily agree with and myself). To them their hearts are for Christ, but in the same instance, they're adding fuel to the WRONG fire if you get what I'm saying by selling the same things they're lashing out aginst. They have book burnings of Harry Potter, but support preaching on an online game based on the same genre. (Sorcerers, Magic, Dragons, Knights, etc.)

TY
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once I got to thinking about this, this is one of the many reasons I'm astonished people don't believe in God. I can directly relate to this. I was brought to the belief in "God" in general by means which I've recently abandoned for God Himself. Through that faith in God I came to Jesus. Once again He seems to poke me on the shoulder and say "Hey, I chose you, remember?" Very Happy

Ephesians

1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus
Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Maverick---------------


this church is it offering real estate in "Jesus land"?If so you went to a satire site.It isn't a real church.


much love---------knuckle
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atoz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maverick1337 wrote:
Once I got to thinking about this, this is one of the many reasons I'm astonished people don't believe in God. I can directly relate to this. I was brought to the belief in "God" in general by means which I've recently abandoned for God Himself. Through that faith in God I came to Jesus. Once again He seems to poke me on the shoulder and say "Hey, I chose you, remember?" Very Happy

Ephesians

1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus
Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


That's it, M1337!

God uses all means and every means
simply because he uses Love, which loves all words, to make all means full of Love and so meaningful~ and so he can use anyone at any time to test those whom he is calling to see if they love him as those poor means or bad guys---who are really God in disguise as the least of these!

Do you see why you have to lvoe you as God loves u: As Himself and so as all words?

In God's Way of Thinking in Love for all words,
the means justify the ends
and
the ends justify the means.

This is also why and how each person has a different story about the same Story of God's Love!smile

with all Love and R,
atoz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I read a little more about it from other websites and realized its a mock. I didn't know these kinds of things exist but it does not surprise me.

Do you think this kind of thing applies to Php.1:18?

Also does "pretense" mean the same thing as "pretence"?

Kinda like "subtil" and "subtle" in Gen.

~~God Bless!!~~
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maverick1337 wrote:
Yea I read a little more about it from other websites and realized its a mock. I didn't know these kinds of things exist but it does not surprise me.

Do you think this kind of thing applies to Php.1:18?

Also does "pretense" mean the same thing as "pretence"?

Kinda like "subtil" and "subtle" in Gen.

~~God Bless!!~~


Yes to both questions!

Subtle means wise: Mt 10:16.

But to be really wise we have to be subtle in Love of the unwise, or be wise in Love of fools.

The real wisdom is the Love for both wisemen and fools.

To hate being a fool is to be wise in hate which is more foolishness.--since the real foolishness is the Hatred of fools.

See 1 cor 3:18 and 1:25-28.

God is the most subtle being ever since he is subtle in Love of the unsubtle!

I am so glad you understand me!smile
And if you ever don't , no big thing---just ask a question.
ok?

With all Love and R,
atoz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westboro Baptist Church exists solely as a money-making enterprise. A majority of its elder members are lawyers. Their protests exist such that they can rile up observers to the point that these observers assault church members, whereupon members of the church sue the offenders.

It's unlikely they even believe the nonsense they are preaching, they preach it for no other reason than that it offends people.
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atoz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFT wrote:
Westboro Baptist Church exists solely as a money-making enterprise. A majority of its elder members are lawyers. Their protests exist such that they can rile up observers to the point that these observers assault church members, whereupon members of the church sue the offenders.

It's unlikely they even believe the nonsense they are preaching, they preach it for no other reason than that it offends people.


Therefore, WBC is very good for teaching us to love fools or nonsensical people as ourselves by first loving ourselves as stupid and nonsensical,
so that nothing nor nobody cd nor will ever offend us!smile

Psalm 119:
165Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Proverbs 16

4The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

7When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

with Love for all,
with Malice for none,
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