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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject: The Bible and Lesbianism Reply with quote
Here is an interesting claim from

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.com/biblical_evidence/ruth_naomi.html:

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The same Hebrew word that is used in Genesis 2:24 to describe how Adam felt about Eve (and how spouses are supposed to feel toward each other) is used in Ruth 1:14 to describe how Ruth felt about Naomi. Her feelings are celebrated, not condemned.

And throughout Christian history, Ruth's vow to Naomi has been used to illustrate the nature of the marriage covenant. These words are often read at Christian wedding ceremonies and used in sermons to illustrate the ideal love that spouses should have for one another. The fact that these words were originally spoken by one woman to another tells us a lot about how God feels about same-gender relationships.


Any thoughts?
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FFT
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Naomi was Ruth's mother-in-law; I'm not sure this has all that much merit to it.
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Vibrate
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not wrong to feel the same type of devotion and appreciation for someone who is not your spouse that you feel for your spouse. It doesn't matter if they are male or female either. The question of sexuality is about situations in which that specific form of expression is appropriate.
To imagine that homo-sexuality is a way to express devotion and appreciation is based not necessarily on incorrect emotions, but on an incorrect thinking on what that action means.
I think that the problem of homo-sexuality is not as deep as you're making it seem. It is not caused by wrong emotions, that should not be felt towards someone of the same sex. It's really a much more simple problem, which has to do with not understanding what the act means, as opposed to not understanding what the feelings/emotions such as love/devotion/appreciation mean. See what I mean?
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ChristianWoman1
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The Bible and Lesbianism Reply with quote
P1234567890 wrote:
Here is an interesting claim from

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.com/biblical_evidence/ruth_naomi.html:

Quote:
The same Hebrew word that is used in Genesis 2:24 to describe how Adam felt about Eve (and how spouses are supposed to feel toward each other) is used in Ruth 1:14 to describe how Ruth felt about Naomi. Her feelings are celebrated, not condemned.

And throughout Christian history, Ruth's vow to Naomi has been used to illustrate the nature of the marriage covenant. These words are often read at Christian wedding ceremonies and used in sermons to illustrate the ideal love that spouses should have for one another. The fact that these words were originally spoken by one woman to another tells us a lot about how God feels about same-gender relationships.


Any thoughts?



For anyone to suggest the Bible says homosexual activity is acceptable to God, is nothing short of willful blindness. If the homosexual community chooses to practice homosexuality in privacy, that is there free choice. But let such persons know for certain that the Christian Bible condemns all such practices and God will judge them unfit for the kingdom of heaven if the continue to practice and openly promote homosexual sex.
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summertime
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: The Bible and Lesbianism Reply with quote
P1234567890 wrote:
Here is an interesting claim from

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.com/biblical_evidence/ruth_naomi.html:

Quote:
The same Hebrew word that is used in Genesis 2:24 to describe how Adam felt about Eve (and how spouses are supposed to feel toward each other) is used in Ruth 1:14 to describe how Ruth felt about Naomi. Her feelings are celebrated, not condemned.

And throughout Christian history, Ruth's vow to Naomi has been used to illustrate the nature of the marriage covenant. These words are often read at Christian wedding ceremonies and used in sermons to illustrate the ideal love that spouses should have for one another. The fact that these words were originally spoken by one woman to another tells us a lot about how God feels about same-gender relationships.


Any thoughts?


I have not read what's at the link, but interestingly enough, once I submitted the David & Jonathan story to a Christian co-worker and replaced, I believe, Jonathan's name with a female name and she thought it was a love story. This thread just made me think of that.
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Big Pit Bull



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: The Bible and Lesbianism Reply with quote
ChristianWoman1 wrote:
P1234567890 wrote:
Here is an interesting claim from

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.com/biblical_evidence/ruth_naomi.html:

Quote:
The same Hebrew word that is used in Genesis 2:24 to describe how Adam felt about Eve (and how spouses are supposed to feel toward each other) is used in Ruth 1:14 to describe how Ruth felt about Naomi. Her feelings are celebrated, not condemned.

And throughout Christian history, Ruth's vow to Naomi has been used to illustrate the nature of the marriage covenant. These words are often read at Christian wedding ceremonies and used in sermons to illustrate the ideal love that spouses should have for one another. The fact that these words were originally spoken by one woman to another tells us a lot about how God feels about same-gender relationships.


Any thoughts?



For anyone to suggest the Bible says homosexual activity is acceptable to God, is nothing short of willful blindness. If the homosexual community chooses to practice homosexuality in privacy, that is there free choice. But let such persons know for certain that the Christian Bible condemns all such practices and God will judge them unfit for the kingdom of heaven if the continue to practice and openly promote homosexual sex.


The bible does indeed condemn same sex acts. Some people stop there. Some, however, ask more questions, like what are the contexts of the same sex references in the bible. For some, context is vital. For others, context is not so important. Thus, one reason there are differing conclusions on this issue.
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