Alan Keyes vs Barak Obama

45degreeN · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: Alan Keyes vs Barak Obama

Whew what a concept, two black politicians going against each other in the presidential election.

How many of us even remember Alan Keyes? He is a hard core conservative with evangelical connections that are deeply rooted instead of surface stuff like W's. He has a great ability to reach people since his earlier career was in teaching. He has experience in statescraft since he was an ambassador and he is not from a career political family.

In fact he was "drafted" to face Barak Obama for his senatorial seat at the last minute because the primary winner couldn't go on and he still polled well (obviously he didn't win that seat) but still he knows enough about Barak to give him a real fight in 08.

Anyone out there willing to have such an election as this?
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saibe · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:04 am Post subject:

This is the, year of the Woman;Hear me roar!

signed,

Hillary Laughing

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45degreeN · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:59 am Post subject:

OK the Alan Keyes vs Hillary.

It seems none of the other Republican candidates are true conservatives, each has their issues in their background. I'm not even saying that Mr Keyes will run but just thinking about him against Obama seems interesting.
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Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1512

I'd vote for Satan before I'd vote for Hillary....at least with Satan, I have some inclination as to how far his evilness will go... Shocked

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P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:02 am Post subject:

McCain's big project is campaign finance reform. If all of his latest crazy talk and group hugs with the likes of Falwell and friends is just an act to help him get elected, then I still totally support him.

Campaign finance reform could actually save your country. If he is elected and does literally nothing else, he would probably be the greatest President in history.
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45degreeN · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject:

I certainly agree with your sentiment concerning Election reform, but remember the primaries as when the candidates run toward their bases and for McCain that means going against his liberal grain, too many compromises for the republican base. I do respect McCain for his standing on principles by the way, I just don't think he represents the republicans.

He and Giuliani are both too liberal to get the nomination, neither one has any connections to the evangelical crowd and they don't stand on the core republican "Values." Running his campaign reform from congress would be a better place to do it instead of as president

Keyes has the record of supporting all of those core values and has an international reputation to boot. Would, nay , Could the republicans (the party of Lincoln) actually nominate a black candidate, ever?
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P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject:

saibe · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:32 am Post subject:

This coming election cycle is filled with candidates who have problems, on both sides of the party divide. It appears no one is completely without some issue.

This may be the worst choice election ever. Voters choosing between least worst doesn't bode well for the country.

I understand why true statesmen nowadays just dont like to run for office, but where have they hidden themselves lately? We may go from a high voter turnout in 2006 to a very low turnout in 2008.

We'll see wont we?
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45degreeN · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:23 am Post subject:

I suggest that it hasn't always been that way, for sure recently though.

Up until the first Reagan term it wasn't. The hangers on during the Reagan era though turned out to be the scumbags of today. We can blame Reagan for it since he hired them, but we elected them so we get what we pay for.

If we remember Reagan's tendency to unilateral action disregarding others rights (Patco strike) and our military build up (starwars defense). Our sleeping president (Reagan) had some of the same attitude as Bush just earlier, and became the exemplar.
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P1234567890 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:47 am Post subject:

Yes, Reagan is when things started going REALLY down hill, and this was totally predictable given how he behaved as governor of California.

But it's not like Nixon or Johnson or any of those losers were *that* much better.

In my opinion, Eisenhower was the last good president. I give a nod to Kennedy as well, although he came really close to wiping out all life on Earth, and that's a BIG black mark against him.
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