Lesbianism is not addressed in the Bible?

John Sanjay · Newbie Alert Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

I know people usually cite Leviticus as evidence that God thinks it is a sin for a man to lie with another man:

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

If you read this chapter nowhere does he mention that it is a sin or abmoniation for a woman to lie with a woman. So does his mean lesbianism is OK?

It seems like a double standard? I appreciate any insight.

FFT · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject:

It only calls male homosexual activity abomination when it's translated without a knowledge of the historical background for the law.

It's condemning a particular type of religious ritual, not relationships.
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FFT · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:

I noted you didn't deign to respond last time when I pointed out the context. For the record:

18:24 “‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things, for the nations which I am about to drive out before you have been defiled with all these things.
18:25 Therefore the land has become unclean and I have brought the punishment for its iniquity upon it, so that the land has vomited out its inhabitants.
18:26 You yourselves must obey my statutes and my regulations and must not do any of these abominations, both the native citizen and the resident foreigner in your midst,
18:27 for the people who were in the land before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become unclean.
18:28 So do not make the land vomit you out because you defile it just as it has vomited out the nations that were before you.
18:29 For if anyone does any of these abominations, the persons who do them will be cut off from the midst of their people.
18:30 You must obey my charge to not practice any of the abominable statutes that have been done before you, so that you do not defile yourselves by them. I am the Lord your God.’”

Add the fact that "abomination" is actually better translated "ritual uncleanliness" and you simply have no argument left. It's cute that you keep trying to mock me as if it makes your position any stronger, though.
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Hi John

FFT · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:29 am Post subject:

That section of Romans is about God punishing people's iniquities by turning them against their natural sexual tendencies. It says nothing about homosexuality itself being unnatural.
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holly102869 · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:50 am Post subject:

Jesus says in Cornithians; That he wishes we could all be like him and not be with anyone. If you can not control your sexual life you should get married. I don't see any arguing on this.

Please don't get me wrong I could care less about the issue of homosexuality. I have friends who are and I am not going to judge their way of life. If they are happy good for them.

I feel that if you are going to look at homosexuality. You have to see a man and a man together is the same as a woman and a woman.

This issue of this argument just gets christian to judge others. It will not get you to the divine place you wish to be.

I personally don't care what other people do or don't ,they will not get me my salvation.
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FFT · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:18 am Post subject:

holly102869 · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:54 am Post subject:

Your right it is Paul. I'm sorry I got it mixed up.

The point is still are you going to be saved by a homosexual (Male or Female)? No....

Leave them alone and love one another. Not sexualy but with your heart. Let them make their mistakes while we all make ours. The only one who truely knows the truth is God and we will find it out one day. The day of Judgement. So lets not judge.
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Ana · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:21 am Post subject:

John Sanjay · Newbie Alert Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

holly102869 · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject:

I miss spoke it was Paul.
1 Corinthians 7-1
Now for matters you wrote about: it is good for man not to marry.
7-2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

How do you inturpert this comment?
Keep reading chapter 7 The entire chapter is about marriage.
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FFT · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject:

Specifically, Paul argues against marriage because he believed the world was about to end.

7:25 With regard to the question about people who have never married, I have no command from the Lord, but I give my opinion as one shown mercy by the Lord to be trustworthy.
7:26 Because of the impending crisis I think it best for you to remain as you are.
7:27 The one bound to a wife should not seek divorce. The one released from a wife should not seek marriage.
7:28 But if you marry, you have not sinned. And if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face difficult circumstances, and I am trying to spare you such problems.
7:29 And I say this, brothers and sisters: The time is short. So then those who have wives should be as those who have none,
7:30 those with tears like those not weeping, those who rejoice like those not rejoicing, those who buy like those without possessions,
7:31 those who use the world as though they were not using it to the full. For the present shape of this world is passing away.
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MoJo · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject:

Actually, Jesus does say something about the issue; here it is;

Mat 19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with [his] wife, it is not good to marry.

Mat 19:11 ¶ But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given.

Mat 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from [their] mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive [it], let him receive [it].

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FFT · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject:

MoJo: I'm not entirely sure how that has anything to do with lesbianism. Could you explain, or were you talking about something else?
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