Anger...

pastor2022 · Moderator Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 767

Everyone has had to deal with the emotion of anger that gets a stranglehold on us that will not let go without a fight. It is an emotion that feeds on the pride of an individual and whose hunger is never satisfied. It saps your life away and never gives anything back but more of what you started with.

Doctors in Coral gables, FL did a study of the effects of anger on 18 men who were evenly divided between those with coronary artery disease and without and found that anger reduced the amount of blood pumped the most in both groups of all the other tests done.

Benjamin Franklin said, "Anger is never without a reason, but seldom with a good one."

Frederick Buechner said, "Of the 7 deadly sins, anger is posssibly the most fun. To lick your wounds, to smack your lips over grievances long past, to roll over your tongue the prospect of bitter confrontations still to come, to savor the last toothsome morsel both the pain you are given and the pain you are giving back...in many ways it is a feast for a king. The chief drawback is that what you are wolfing down is yourself. The skeleton at the feast is you." Wishful Thinking Transformed By Thorns, p.117

Jesus had something to say about anger in Matthew 5:21-26:

21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.'
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
23 "Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
25 "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
26 I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.

Jesus is saying that anger unchecked in the heart receives the same punishment as murder. To me that is startling! We have to be careful in justifying our anger toward others. The question we must ask is do we get more angry when somone offends us personally or when we see injustice and wickedness in this world?

We also need to see that anger will adversely affect our worship. If our fellowship is broken with another, then it is broken with God. In fact, this is so serious that Jesus says it is more important to be reconciled to our brother than to do our religious duty.

How, as the Bible says, can we "be angry and sin not?"

atoz · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Anger...

theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

i don't get angry very often...if at all...

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atoz · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject:

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atoz · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject:

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atoz · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject:

TSS: please address what i said....

atoz: i while loving you don't jump through hoops for you... Wink

...except when in Love I want to! Laughing

being in Love like JC,
and thus sinning not when in anger,
Mark 3:5, Ephes 4:26
atoz

theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

atoz

Romans 4:17
17..... even God, who quickeneth the dead, and
calleth those things which be not as though they were.

That's what liars do: Liars call things that are not as though they were.
God does it in Love of liars,
while
liars who are sinners sin by doing it in Hate for liars.

2 Chronicles 18
19And the LORD said,
Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead?
And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

20Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said,
I will entice him.
And the LORD said unto him,
Wherewith?

21And he said,
I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.
And the Lord said,
Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

22Now therefore,
behold,
the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.

Titus 1:2
2In hope of eternal life,
which God, that cannot lie [in Hate, and therefore can lie only in Love or can tell the truth only in Love,] promised before the world began;

Ephesians 4:15
15But speaking the truth in love,
may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

10 .... because they received not the Love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause [of Hate for the truth] God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Whoever makes you believe a lie is a liar.

God loves sinners who are liars & loves saints who speak true,
and
God loves his enemies who are liars & loves his honest friends.
Matthew 5:43-48

When we hate liars or enemies, we make them lie double and more or be more adversarial..since they were lying in the first place because they hated something else about themselves or others!

Proverbs 26
24He that *hateth* dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up deceit within him;

28A lying tongue *hateth* those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

The same thing works with demons or satan:

When we hate demons or Satan, we open our minds up to Satan who is into Hate for us! Of course, we are just as wrong for hating satan as he is for hating us!

So the more we hate them, the more we open our minds to them:

Therefore, when we cast out a demon IN HATE for the demon, the person who was demon-possessed now THINKS that it is ok to hate them even MORE...the very attitude of Hate for his enemies that made him demon-possessed in the first place.
So what can we predict?
He is going to have MORE and BIGGER problems.

Matthew 12:
43When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

44Then he saith,
I will return into my house from whence I came out;
and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.

45Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

in Godly Love for all friends and enemies,
In Christian Love for the honest and the liars,
atoz

theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

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theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

mk5:9And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[c] your own traditions! 10For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,'[d] and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[e] 11But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to God), 12then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother. 13Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."
lk15:21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

heb7:11If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come—one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law. 13He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar. 14For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, 16one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17For it is declared:
"You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek."[a]

ps101:3 I will set before my eyes
no vile thing.
[b]The deeds of faithless men I hate;
they will not cling to me.
4 Men of perverse heart shall be far from me;
I will have nothing to do with evil.

5 Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret,
him will I put to silence; whoever has haughty eyes and a proud heart,
him will I not endure.

6 My eyes will be on the faithful in the land,
that they may dwell with me;
he whose walk is blameless
will minister to me.

7

atoz

atoz · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:20 am Post subject:

Mark5:9
And he said to them:
You have a very UNfine way of setting aside the commands of Love & Respect from God in order to observe your own traditions in the sinful Tradition of Hate & Disrepsect!

10For Moses said,
'Honor/RESPECT/LOVE your father and your mother,'
and,
'Anyone who IN HATE LIKE SATAN curses his father or mother must be put to death.

11But you IN HATE OF YOURSELVES AS POOR say that if a man says IN HATE OF HIMSELF AS POOR to his father or mother:
'Whatever MONETARY help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a FINANCIAL gift devoted to God),

12then you IN HATE LEAVE HIM IN HATE AND IN THAT HATE no longer let him do anything for his father or mother.

13Thus BY ALLOWING HATRED & DISRESPECT FOR HIS PARENTS AND BY ALLOWING HATRED FOR NON-TITHERS, you DOUBLY nullify the word of God FOR THE LOVE & RESPECT FOR PARENTS THAT the word of God by your tradition OF HATRED that you have handed down.
And you do many things like that IN HATE."

God commands us to FIRST PAY Love to our parents at all times and under all conditions. matthew 22:36-40.

Then just in case we miss or overlook that Love-Law, God placed the same Law of Love in the middle of the Ten Commandments under the word 'Respect.' Exodus 20:12. Deut. 5:16.

Just as in Math, things equal to the same thing are themselves equal,
so too both Love and Respect being unconditional,
Love and Respect are 2 different words for and meaning the same the thing: the same attitude of mind.

So just as it still is today, the tradition of the Pharisees & Scribes was the Tradition that you can hate what or who you want as long as you do the right thing...which trad of Hate makes people do the wrong thing in Hate and do the right thing in the WRONG attitude, and is the exact opposite of God's Trad: Owe no man anything but Love. Romans 13:8.

Then by allowing that Trad of Hate,
other bad actions happened:

People who hate their parents will also hate NOT paying their tithes!

So that's what the man above did:
While NOT paying up his Love and Respect and paying HATE, he tried to pay his tithes whcih meant that there was no money left over by which to help his poor parents!

Wheras, since God puts paying 100% Love first and puts paying 10% tithe 2nd, if the man loved his parents 100% as good and as bad, and loved himself 100% as a tither and as a non-tither, he wd see that God who also 100% loved his parents wd also NOT want him to leave his parents without money or food or clothes or house...even when that means that he did NOT pay his tithes to God who owns all the money in the first place!

It's just like what happens today:
In the same Trad of Hate, today's ministers say to people:
You HAVE to tithe to get blessed.
God hates the nontither.
Then the results today are the same back then: people are more concerned about paying tithes than paying up all their Love: they wd let their kids starve, parents poor, lose home, owe bills and etc in order to pay tithes.

Whereas God says:
You have to get blessed to tithe.
And you have to LOVE to get blessed.
So with Love, you are blessed before you tithe.
Therefore, with Love you are already blessed even if you don't tithe.
Therefore, you are blessed in order to tithe.
Therefore, it is a privilege to tithe.
Therefore, whether you pay tithes or not, you can pay 100% Love all the time!
Therefore, with the Blessing of Love, you are doubly blessed when blessed with being able to tithe, and you are still blessed even when cursed with NOT being able to tithe.
Therefore with Love, you are to curse in Love or bless in Love!

Therefore, by God's Trad of Love, the problem with the man above cursing his parents was once again the CURSE of HATE with which he cursed them, and NOT the curse in itself!

God himself curses in Love and blesses in Love! Levit 26 and deut 28.

By Satan's Trad of Hate, hating is ok BUT cursing is wrong, the very hatred that makes cursing in hate happen!
Which is why JC said: By hating whoever and what, we swallow the camel of Hate while straining at the gnat of cursing. matthew 23.

God curses in Love and blesses in love.
Levit 26 and deut 28.

And so he blesses in Love and curses in Love.

And so His blessings and his cursings come out of His one mouth in the same ONE Love! James 3.

in the tradition of God's Love for tithers and non-tithers, for blessers and cursers, for good parents and for evil parents, Matthew 5:44-45,
atoz