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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: preach on rush preach on!!!...(if it is true)... Reply with quote

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.


If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They did not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you know, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was about my thoughts on it too... Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: preach on rush preach on!!!...(if it is true)... Reply with quote

theseldomscene wrote:
If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.


Come on guys; this is supposed to be surprising? America has a completely different set of standards for rich people and poor people, and this isn't even close to the only example.

If you're a burglar, and you break into a little old lady's house to steal stuff, they throw the book at you. But if you're a white-collar executive, and you steal the retirement packages of a thousand little old ladies, your punishment is a comparative slap on the wrist.

theseldomscene wrote:

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They did not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.


Again, this isn't very surprising. People in charge of the money ALWAYS have their hands in the cookie jar. Just look at any university. A lot of them have disclosure policies so that you can see how much everyone working there makes. Administrators (who never teach or do ANY research, and are usually VERY bad at their jobs) on average get paid WAY more than professors. Why? Because they simply keep giving themselves raises!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P123456790 wrote:
If you're a burglar, and you break into a little old lady's house to steal stuff, they throw the book at you. But if you're a white-collar executive, and you steal the retirement packages of a thousand little old ladies, your punishment is a comparative slap on the wrist.
This is due to the fact that rich people can afford to hire sophists (in the classic sense) and poor people cannot, not because of some innate failing of the justice system. It's not because the standards are different, merely because rich people can effectively buy lesser punishments.

P123456790 wrote:
Administrators (who never teach or do ANY research, and are usually VERY bad at their jobs) on average get paid WAY more than professors. Why? Because they simply keep giving themselves raises!
I can't speak for other universities, but at the University of Memphis, the administrators of each department have to teach classes within that department during each semester. They do have the priveledge of choosing which classes they teach, though. The administrator of the philosophy department here is one of my teachers this semester, and his class is on the whole pretty enjoyable.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come on guys; this is supposed to be surprising?
It isn't supposed to be surprising P, it is supposed to be disgusting.

Don't get me wrong, I love my country and honestly I really do appreciate the $450 a month I get for giving my life in service to that country (I know, I'm not dead yet, but it will happen soon enough). I even appreciate the fact that when I do kick the can, my family will get $1700 to bury me (which will cover less than half of a cut rate funeral) and not a penny more.

I thought about going into politics but I have an aversion to lying for a living....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come on guys; this is supposed to be surprising?
It isn't supposed to be surprising P, it is supposed to be disgusting.

Don't get me wrong, I love my country and honestly I really do appreciate the $450 a month I get for giving my life in service to that country (I know, I'm not dead yet, but it will happen soon enough). I even appreciate the fact that when I do kick the can, my family will get $1700 to bury me (which will cover less than half of a cut rate funeral) and not a penny more.

I thought about going into politics but I have an aversion to lying for a living....


I think it's ridiculous that you put your neck on the line (how many times?) and some white-collar paper-pusher from the world trade center working in the private sector gets hundreds of times the benefits that you do. It's crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it's ridiculous that you put your neck on the line (how many times?)
numerous times actually although I am lucky enough to have only been wounded twice. Funny how one time is enough to end everything though....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it's ridiculous that you put your neck on the line (how many times?)
numerous times actually although I am lucky enough to have only been wounded twice. Funny how one time is enough to end everything though....


If you had to guess, how many times did you actually put your life on the line for Uncle Sam?

I wonder why the WTC families get such massive benefits... Was the Bush administration afraid of a lawsuit?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When this issue came out I actually called the Rush Limbaugh show... and got on the air! Rush had a guess host on that day though, who BTW did not share the same opinion as Rush about this. This is really odd that TSS would put this thing up. The only time I ever got through on Rush's show... and it was this subject. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is really odd that TSS would put this thing up.The only time I ever got through on Rush's show... and it was this subject.


i have been with you all this time...and you still haven't been able to tell?...

odd could be a definition...or there could be another...

and any who would disagree with this threads topic...well...that would do something very few things can do...leave me speechless...


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that just dumbfounds me some would disagree...do you remember who the guest was?...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theseldomscene wrote:
that just dumbfounds me some would disagree...do you remember who the guest was?...


I can't remember in all honesty... I want to say it was Hannity... but for the life of me... that just doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe Mark Levin... but that too doesn't fit. I was just excited for one... getting through and two, actually making the cut to get on the show.

His whole argument was that those people were killed in an act of War and that our government should shoulder some responsibility helping these folks out. My counter argument was then.. fine... what about the soldiers who go off and get themselves killed in these acts of war... they are only getting 250K in life insurance.. why can't we get in on some of that million dollar stuff... the response... it was the initial act of war.

Bottom line, Rush set the record straight the next day and agreed with me. Didn't mention by name, but he did refer to the conversation as it was the last call of the show.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they are only getting 250K in life insurance


wow...when i served it was only 50000....

and i stand by my statement that any who would disagree with rush on this are crazy....

so then by their arguement the gov should have rewarded extra to the families of pearl harbor victims...and the uss cole?...i think if it(911) was an act of war, which it was, and some want the families compensated...then the most they should get whatever the families of those who fall in service in the military get...at the most...
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