Something is bothering me

ChristineS · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: Something is bothering me

I wanted to post this here, because it is to other Christians I am writing. I was on two other boards and both had posts about the Trinity and "trinitarians". I am one of those who believes Jesus is God. The way some of these people describe trinitarians as they are kids who were too old too believe in Santa Claus. In other words, they made people like me look stupid for believing what I have been taught since I was a Christian, something that most Christians have accepted for a very long time. I can accept that someone has a different belief than mine, but I don't think I should made to feel stupid for my beliefs.
Are there any others here who believe Jesus is God? Do you feel as I do or do you think I am just being hypersensitive? I stopped posting my belief in The Trinity because I just got tired of being ridiculed by fellow Christians for it. I expect atheists to ridicule my faith, as they always have since I became a Christian. It doens't really even bother me anymore, but this attack from other Christians is too much.
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admin · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject:

Until not too many years ago I thought the Trinity was just the way it was, I didn't even know it was a question.

That being said. We are in a major evolution of theology change right now, at least that's what I see. I attribute a large part of that to the information available on the internet.

I have been confronted with many things the last couple years that make me uncomfortable, or more correctly to say I have learned the last couple years so many areas where I have been wrong for a very long time.

I just didn't have all the information.

So I guess my answer to you is more than just whether the Trinity is correct or not, it's more addressed at the amount of information we now have access to.

It's difficult sometimes to know what's correct.

My two cents on the Trinity. It's a theological creation.

More importantly, as I have learned from RevJP, is to ask how it helps or affects our faith and walk with Jesus Christ.
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golfjack · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: reply

I know that sometimes the things of God are hard to understand, especially the Trinity. I don't believe we can use our minds to understand the Trinity because science has proved we only operate on 10 percent brain capacity. The verse that I believe proves the Trinity is found in Gen. 1:26 because it says let us create man. It is impossible to understand this concept until we go home, when we will have full restoration.

ChristineS, I know you are very passionate in what you believe, but I must disagree with you on this. Just a little word of advice and not critizing you: Your denomination or Church you go to is wrong on this point, and could be mis-leading you. I believe most Christians believe in the Trinity. Have you ever wondered why? The Bible does say, Don't lean on your own understanding.

May God bless, golfjack

ChristineS · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:57 am Post subject:

What is bothering me is that a lot of people don't respect my opinion or others like mine. If I am wrong, I am wrong, but isn't there a chance that I am right at all? But that isn't really the point, the point isn't whether I believe in the Trinity or if I don't, it is respect for my belief. That is all I am asking.
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golfjack · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: reply

I do respect you. Maybe you should pray about this. I do respect others opinions, but we as Christians should preach and teach in Boldness, and especially pray for others. I pray that you receive wisdom, knowledge, and peace in the Name of Jesus.

May God bless, golfjack

Drewgie · Kitten Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 144

I believe in the trinity. If you ask me it's kind of hard to be a Christian without accepting the concept of a trinity. Christ came to earth and claimed equality and oneness with God while at the same time leading a perfect human life with no sin. You can't say Jesus led a sinless life if you think he lied about his unity with the Father.

Therefore to me it seems the trinity is a necessary aspect of Christian faith. Furthermore, if you believe in an omnipotent God you shouldn't think the idea of his manifestation in three forms ridiculous. An omnipotent God could manifest himself in three thousand forms if he wanted.

Long story short, the trinity is Biblical, don't be ashamed of your belief in the concept. Definitely do not feel ashamed just because others ridicule your beliefs (so long as those beliefs are Biblical, such as the trinity). As it says in Romans 3:4, "Let God be true, and every man a liar".
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Nobby · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:

ChristineS, you hang in there girl! Your not the only one that believes in Trinity! Very Happy

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golfjack · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: reply

ChristineS, I must apology to you. I thought you didn't believe in the Trinity, but you do. Careless of me. Please accept my apology.

May God bless, golfjack

admin · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: reply

golfjack · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: reply

Admin, I don't pay any attention to skeptics. All I know is whjat the Bible says. Before the fall, Adam and Eve, they could name the animals (tiger, lion, and so forth. Trying doing that now. When Believers get to heaven, everything will be restored. Because of the fall, mankind has lost dominion. Why do you think that the Bible says Satan is the god of this world? Not my world, but the world of unbelievers.

May God bless, golfjack

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admin · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:

golfjack, I have no idea what you're referring to in your post as it relates to this thread.

flashman, please refer me to sections of the bible that refer to the Trinity.
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admin · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:

My question was not a loaded question, it was a real question.

I just did a google on "mention of the Trinity in the bible" - first result is:
http://www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/1301-J-12.htm

My understanding is the Trinity is a way of reconciling Jesus, God and the descending of the Holy Spirit.

So it does not strike me as an all-important cornerstone belief. It seems to me a "theological creation" to explain how God is all these three.

In Confirmation (Lutheran) it was explaned to me as water, snow and steam. Three variations of the same substance.

I'm very open to illumination on this subject.
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