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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 8322 Location: Victoria, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: Muslim group in Toronto invites fundamentalist Imam to speak |
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I really don't get it... After the big terror plot was foiled here in Toronto, one would expect the Muslim community to condemn fundamentalism and distance itself from radical Islam, but someone isn't getting the message, because the organizers of the Toronto Islamic Foundation's Youth Tarbiyah conference have invited Sheik Riyadh ul Haq, a crazy Imam from Britain to come and lecture to the Muslim youth in the community.
Check it out:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060624.IMAM24/TPStory/National
Apparently a similar conference in Montreal uninvited him:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/22/ul-haq.html
But the Toronto organizers apparently say that he is an 'inspirational speaker', and refuse to cancel his talk. Just what does he inspire, though...
Can anyone out there explain to me what the heck the organizers of the conference are thinking? _________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
-Steven Weinberg
"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
-Someone who shall remain anonymous. |
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Ana King of the Jungle

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 1566 Location: BC
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Maybe they're afraid to refuse him, on grounds that they might make a dangerous enemy? Perhaps it's a diplomatic maneuver to keep our enemies closer? It sounds like this speech he's set to give is going to spread hate messages about other religions, which is not cool. If we catch him doing it, can't we take some sort of action against him, though? _________________ Truth doesn't care about theology, and theology doesn't care about truth.
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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 8322 Location: Victoria, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Ana wrote: | | Maybe they're afraid to refuse him, on grounds that they might make a dangerous enemy? Perhaps it's a diplomatic maneuver to keep our enemies closer? It sounds like this speech he's set to give is going to spread hate messages about other religions, which is not cool. If we catch him doing it, can't we take some sort of action against him, though? |
I don't think there's much that can be done. Canadians enjoy freedom of expression, but unfortunately in cases like this it turns out to be a double-edged sword.
The only way to get him would be if he was actually promoting violence. The guy probably isn't stupid; I doubt that he explicitly tells people to go and commit violent acts. I think the argument can be made that he is inciting violence, though, since it apparently doesn't take much to get extreme Muslims to go and plan violent acts like cutting the Prime Minister's head off... _________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
-Blaise Pascal
"...with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -that takes religion..."
-Steven Weinberg
"I would bless my children with your destruction instead."
-Someone who shall remain anonymous. |
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Ana King of the Jungle

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 1566 Location: BC
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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So then, the onus is really on the audience to behave themselves and not plan/execute acts of violence... _________________ Truth doesn't care about theology, and theology doesn't care about truth.
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Tiptronic Kitten
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 143 Location: On the net
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Mind giving a link that doesnt require me to have to pay to read?
Thanks. |
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Ana King of the Jungle

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 1566 Location: BC
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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When he posted the link over a month ago, readers didn't have to pay. You must have to pay for archived stories though.
A quick google on the title (which you are still privy to) reveals this:
The story, reproduced on another site _________________ Truth doesn't care about theology, and theology doesn't care about truth.
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