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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Catholic church warming up to condoms Reply with quote

It only took them a few decades to realize that they were helping spread AIDS by telling people not to use condoms:

http://ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2006-04-21_1217830.html
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FFT
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

Maybe the world really is going to end.
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Ana
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish my last name was Martini Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPOGANDA ABOUT CONDOMS? ? ?

Speaking as an adult, MOST having sex, also KISS! The red blood cells in Saliva, CAN CARRY THE AIDS VIRUS, THE HERPIES VIRUS AND THE CLAMIDIA VIRUS, as well as A Host of OTHERS!

The armed forces did Condom Studies, and found them to ONLY be less than 85% Effective Against STD [ Sexually Transmitted Diseases ]

The AIDS, virus can be transmitted BY KISSING TOO! It can remain in the body, and NOT SHOW UP WITH THE LATEST TESTING = for 2 TWO = to 8 EIGHT = YEARS!

HOW SAFE IS SAFE? ABSTINANCE ONLY!

SO YOU THOUGHT YOU GOT AWAY SAFE? NOT!

GOD'S STANDARD IS ALWAYS BEST!

(1Corinthians 6:16-TO-20) What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

(1Co 6:17) But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

(1Co 6:18) Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

(1Co 6:19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

(1Co 6:20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Thanks, Roger R.
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FFT
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPOGANDA ABOUT CONDOMS? ? ?
I try not to believe the propaganda about anything, Roger.

ROGER459 wrote:
Speaking as an adult, MOST having sex, also KISS! The red blood cells in Saliva, CAN CARRY THE AIDS VIRUS, THE HERPIES VIRUS AND THE CLAMIDIA VIRUS, as well as A Host of OTHERS!
Well, you're right about herpes. But HIV is not transmitted through saliva at all, and chlamydia can be eradicated by a single gram dose of Azithromycin or 100 mg of Doxycycline twice daily for a week.

ROGER459 wrote:
The armed forces did Condom Studies, and found them to ONLY be less than 85% Effective Against STD [ Sexually Transmitted Diseases ]
Source? I'm curious which STDs they were testing.
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is great; Roger is promoting celibacy and abstinance by trying to trick people into thinking that condoms don't work!

Nice try Roger!

I thought that telling a lie was a sin...
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Ana
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P1234567890 wrote:
This is great; Roger is promoting celibacy and abstinance by trying to trick people into thinking that condoms don't work!

Nice try Roger!

I thought that telling a lie was a sin...


Is it still a lie if you think it's true when you say it?
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ana wrote:

Is it still a lie if you think it's true when you say it?


It is if deep down you know it to be a lie. Most people don't have the ability to practice double-think with 100% effectiveness.

Especially with the "condoms don't work" claim... Nobody can believe that! Roger, I doubt that God is very happy that you're telling lies...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROGER wrote:
The AIDS, virus can be transmitted BY KISSING TOO! It can remain in the body, and NOT SHOW UP WITH THE LATEST TESTING = for 2 TWO = to 8 EIGHT = YEARS!
You sir, are an idiot.

You know absolutely nothing about what you are saying, and I would hope that you would be sane enough to reason out in your own mind that you should keep your mouth shut about that which you are woefully ignorant.

You are fond of screaming scripture at everyone. Look in Proverbs about keeping your mouth shut and being thought a fool....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RevJP wrote:
ROGER wrote:
The AIDS, virus can be transmitted BY KISSING TOO! It can remain in the body, and NOT SHOW UP WITH THE LATEST TESTING = for 2 TWO = to 8 EIGHT = YEARS!
You sir, are an idiot.

You know absolutely nothing about what you are saying, and I would hope that you would be sane enough to reason out in your own mind that you should keep your mouth shut about that which you are woefully ignorant.

You are fond of screaming scripture at everyone. Look in Proverbs about keeping your mouth shut and being thought a fool....


Amen RevJP!
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lone-traveler
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

got question...

can aids be transmitted through oral sex?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm...
think I found something:

Can I get HIV from oral sex?
Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through

the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
the lining of the vagina or cervix;
the lining of the anus; or
directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.
If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (*Cream Soda*), pre-seminal fluid (pre-*Cream Soda*), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.
The risk of HIV transmission increases

if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).
Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq19.htm

So Roger when you wrote:

Quote:
Speaking as an adult, MOST having sex, also KISS!


wasn't it oral sex that you was referring to?

Peace
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lone-traveler wrote:

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Speaking as an adult, MOST having sex, also KISS!


wasn't it oral sex that you was referring to?


Don't make excuses for him! It's pretty hard to confuse kissing and oral sex!

It's clear that Roger was just trying to lie in order to trick people into practicing abstinence. His entire argument was dishonest.
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lone-traveler
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know P...
well maybe you don't Confused or disgusted

there was a time not too long ago we were having a discussion here about sperm.
I tried every which way I could to define it without actually coming out and saying it...sperm..there it is sperm...I said it...

Now SOME people try to be polite in the way they word things because they're not sure about who may be reading or what age groups could be participating and well there are some things you just don't blurt out so bluntly...well at least thats the way I was raised..you try to be somewhat discreet and careful with information.

but today it really doesn't matter does it..everyone just says anything without considering anything.
Parents are not discreet or careful with their words or actions around children or others for that matter...
they just ignorantly blurt out whatever comes to mind.

so quick to judge, lack of common sense, not to mention lack of courtesy.
I make fun of a story about my daughter getting in a car with her friend who had just gotten her liscence. And as they were going down the highway, my daughters friend asks...what's merge mean?? Shocked
My daughter told me she was very uncomfortable during the rest of the ride...

so I was thinking along those lines when I ask:

what does having morals mean? Shocked

good day
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lone-traveler wrote:

what does having morals mean? Shocked


I'm all for morals, but we shouldn't be politically-correct with our language at the cost of accuracy. Roger is always railing against political correctness, so I doubt that this is what caused him to say that AIDS can be spread by kissing.

I think that Roger wants to spread the message of abstinence, and that he's even willing to go so far as distorting facts and lying in order to do it.
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