Resurrection in Dan. 12:2 Who and When?

onehope · Sea Monkey Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 13

"Daniel 12:2 Resurrection- When and Who?"

Pre-Trib theologians declare this resurrection to be for
'Daniel's people' and have rightly placed it at the end of
the tribulation. Although saying Daniel's people has the
effect of distracting all would be Bible believers from
thinking this resurrection has anything to do with them, it
has also placed Pre-trib theologians on the hot seat.

The common take for PT is there is a resurrection for
the 'church' before the tribulation but no resurrection for
any wicked until the end of the 1000 years.

PT assumes that redefining who 'Daniel's people' are,
they will be carried to the end of the 1000 years no problem
before they have to deal with the wicked dead. How did the
wicked dead get from Dan. 12:2 to the end of the 1000 years?
Answer: They didn't.

God said both would be resurrected at the same time.
Hath God said? Dan. 12:1-3.

AT THAT TIME:

(1)One- Michael Stands Up- PT says 'Amen!'
(2)Two- Time of trouble- PT says 'Amen!'
(3)Three- Israel is delivered- PT says 'Amen!'
(4)Four- Many of them that sleep shall awake- 'Amen!'
(5)Five- Some to everlasting life- 'Preach it Brother!'
(6)Six- Some to everlasting shame- 'Yabut 1000 years
later'

The plot thickens considerably with every unfortunate
move. There now exists an officially recongnized resurrection
to take place on or thereabouts the Last Day consisting of the
saints of old.

The Pre-trib theologians have now divided the saints
into two groups depending on which side of the cross they
died. John the Baptist got his head chopped off a few days
before Jeus was crucified so he won't make the pre-trib
resurrection, he'll have to wait till the 'other'
resurrection at the end of the tribulation.

Pre-trib utters that Caiphas, that wicked man won't be
raised till the end of the 1000 years, while Jesus told him he
will see Him when He comes in the clouds of glory. Blind
leaders are leading many blind followers into the ditch.

But equating Daniel's people with a resurrection
specifically for Israel will not hold up even on both legs. A
national 'Israel only' resurrection is not equal to a
resurrection of all the Old Testament saints. Of course Enoch
and Abel were not national Israelites, yet they will be
resurrected under the banner of being some of Daniel's
people.

So it is hardly a stretch to say that Daniel's people
are my people. They are mine and they are yours if you are in
Christ.

The application of who Daniel's people are has been
misapplied to relate to Israel only. This is apparent as John
6 declares no such distinction as to whether one is an
'Israelite' or one is in 'the church' yet the same
resurrection is in view.

Lord Jesus Bless All His
Saints

brendan · Big Guppy Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 47

in short he was simply talking about the same ressurection spoken of in rev. and in fact was jesus telling him of this well before he became the christ.But Daniel is needed to help understand rev. god bless. So be it

got_truth? · Ferret Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 107

Comforting indeed is the hope of the resurrection. Daniel 12:2 touches on it, saying: “There will be many of those asleep in the ground of dust who will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to reproaches and to indefinitely lasting abhorrence.” (Compare Isaiah 26:19.) These words may well remind us of Jesus Christ’s moving promise of a general resurrection. (John 5:28, 29) What a thrilling hope! Just think of beloved friends and family—now dead—given a chance to live again in the future! But this promise in the book of Daniel refers primarily to another kind of resurrection—one that has already occurred. How could that be?

Consider the context. The first verse of chapter 12 applies, as we have seen, not only to the end of this system of things but also to the entire period of the last days. In fact, the bulk of the chapter finds fulfillment, not in the coming earthly paradise, but during the time of the end. Has there been a resurrection during this period? The apostle Paul wrote of the resurrection of “those who belong to the Christ” as occurring “during his presence.” However, those who are resurrected to life in heaven are raised “incorruptible.” (1 Corinthians 15:23, 52) None of them are raised “to reproaches and to indefinitely lasting abhorrence” foretold at Daniel 12:2. Is there another kind of resurrection? In the Bible, resurrection sometimes has a spiritual significance. For example, both Ezekiel and Revelation contain prophetic passages that apply to a spiritual revival, or resurrection.—Ezekiel 37:1-14; Revelation 11:3, 7, 11.

Has there been such a spiritual revival of God’s anointed servants in the time of the end? Yes! It is a historical reality that in 1918 a small remnant of faithful Christians were subjected to an extraordinary attack that disrupted their organized public ministry. Then, against all likelihood, in 1919 they returned to life in a spiritual sense. These facts fit the description of the resurrection foretold at Daniel 12:2. Some did “wake up” spiritually at that time and thereafter. Sadly, though, not all remained in a spiritually alive state. Those who after being awakened chose to reject the Messianic King and who left God’s service earned for themselves the ‘reproaches and indefinitely lasting abhorrence’ described at Daniel 12:2. (Hebrews 6:4-6) However, the faithful anointed ones, making good use of their spiritually revived state, loyally supported the Messianic King. Ultimately, their faithfulness leads, as the prophecy states, to “indefinitely lasting life.”