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nakhash House Cat
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 171
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject: Serious question |
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| Are fried eggs chicken abortions? |
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thunder Lion King

Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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No matter what we eat, something had to die.
Animal, vegetable, cooked, uncooked, fruit ( the tree lives but the fruit dies ).
Thou shall not kill doesn't seem to apply.
In fact, the Bible says plainly," kill and eat." Deut. 12:15, 21, Luke 15:23, Acts 10:13
thunder _________________ Submit to God in Christ |
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nakhash House Cat
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 171
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| So abortion is okay as long as we cook up the fetus and eat it later? |
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SDMD Show Poodle
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 253
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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But eggs are used in non-food products as well. _________________ Geology: fossils of different ages
Paleontology: fossil sequence & species change over time.
Taxonomy: biological relationships
Evolution: explanation that ties it all together.
Creationism: squeezing eyes shut, wailing "DOES NOT!" |
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nakhash House Cat
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 171
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| So we can use fetuses in shampoo and paint? |
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SDMD Show Poodle
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 253
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it is, like all other biological tissue of human origin treated as "biohazard waste." So there are substantial limitations. _________________ Geology: fossils of different ages
Paleontology: fossil sequence & species change over time.
Taxonomy: biological relationships
Evolution: explanation that ties it all together.
Creationism: squeezing eyes shut, wailing "DOES NOT!" |
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FFT Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 6337 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'd imagine one is no longer a biohazard after being properly pan-seared, no? _________________ When Science was in its crib, Religion tried to strangle it. When Science was in its infancy, Religion tried to abuse it. Now that Science is grown up, Religion wants to be in its good graces.
Theology is philosophy/ethics for people who already know what conclusion they want to come to. |
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SDMD Show Poodle
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 253
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there could still be bacterial toxins. They aren't destroyed unless you autoclave. _________________ Geology: fossils of different ages
Paleontology: fossil sequence & species change over time.
Taxonomy: biological relationships
Evolution: explanation that ties it all together.
Creationism: squeezing eyes shut, wailing "DOES NOT!" |
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ekspiulo Ferret

Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 123
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well unless the bible doesn't think we should use chicken eggs to manufacture flu vaccine[1], its ok to use human fetuses for stuff too. Most notably this would of course be stem cell harvesting. Since the prevention of death by vaccine is godly, so too must be saving the lives of terminally ill people with a slathering of stem cells, or whatever.
So either flue vaccines are murderously created, since they don't involve any thing an intelligent person would consider eating, or harvesting delicious stem cells is not murder either.
[1]actually I think god seriously disapproves of this practice since vaccines interfere with his divine will to slay the living and every time we make a new vaccine he has to magic new viruses into birds and monkeys that aren't affected by the vaccine cause viruses can't evolve on their own. The flu does gods work, welcoming christians into His arms, "between 250 000 and 500 000" times a year. God seems eager to get His hands on people over 65, as the flue gets way more of them than other age groups. _________________ "The obvious must be observed and re-observed and argued for. This is a thankless job." - Sam Harris |
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NCBornandRaised1 Goldfish

Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Winooksi, VT U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| thunder wrote: | No matter what we eat, something had to die.
Animal, vegetable, cooked, uncooked, fruit ( the tree lives but the fruit dies ).
Thou shall not kill doesn't seem to apply.
In fact, the Bible says plainly," kill and eat." Deut. 12:15, 21, Luke 15:23, Acts 10:13
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It is technically "Thou Shall not murder" it was a missinterpitation
But if it was meant to be thou shall not kill wouldn't that make what god doesn't like a hypricryt? (Excuse me for my spelling I ain't good at it)
God Bless,
NC _________________ Dr. Jack Van Impe's home site www.jvim.com |
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Roger459 Grizzly Bear
Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 709 Location: Pinellas Park, FL, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: The REAL ANSWER! |
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(Exodus 20:13) Thou shalt not murder. Most Bibles say KILL!
(1Timothy 4:2-3) Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
(1Ti 4:3) Forbidding to marry, = = and commanding to abstain from meats,= = which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
IN THE FIRST VERSE: Exodus 20 you may not understand that there are 5-words in Hebrew for KILL! The one used in Exodus 20:13 is the WORD for the Taking of INNONCENT LIFE! Abortion is the Killing "And / Or" - The Murder of that Innocent UNBORN LIFE!
IF A COUPLE IS GOING TO KEEP THE CHILD = IT IS CALLED A BABY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNBORN!
IF THEY ARE GOING TO ABORT IT = THEY CALL IT A FETUS! The Word change is Politically Correct = Yet Still MURDER! For FETUS IN THE LATIN = MEANS - -"LIVING ONE"
NOW TO 1Timothy 4:2-3 FORBIDING OR = = and commanding to abstain from meats,= = IS OFTEN A SIGN OF A CULT! That is = specific food stuffs = CHICKEN INCLUDED! Most Indian Religions ABSTAIN FROM EATING MEATS OR ANY LIVING THING = = BECAUSE they believe in REINCARNATION!
AND YET MILLIONS DIE DUE TO DISEASE ESPECIALLY FROM RATS!
YET THE REAL TRUTH IS HERE IN THE SECOND HALF OF THAT VERSE: which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which Believe and Know THE TRUTH.
HOPE THIS HELPS? Thanks, RR |
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Fake Tiger

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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sure, so you believe in the Bible, you follow the underastanding of your Bible, and don't have an abortion.
SWince I don't follow the Bible, I'll follow my moral guidlines that tell me a woman has the right to decide what happens with her body.
Ain't choice grand?
Let's assume a majority of the US population decided to outlaw religion, would you stop practicing your belief in God?
Fake _________________ I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.” |
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FFT Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 6337 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ROGER459 wrote: | | NOW TO 1Timothy 4:2-3 FORBIDING OR = = and commanding to abstain from meats,= = IS OFTEN A SIGN OF A CULT! That is = specific food stuffs = CHICKEN INCLUDED! Most Indian Religions ABSTAIN FROM EATING MEATS OR ANY LIVING THING = = BECAUSE they believe in REINCARNATION! | So Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all cults? All have dietary requirements that restrict meat eating. _________________ When Science was in its crib, Religion tried to strangle it. When Science was in its infancy, Religion tried to abuse it. Now that Science is grown up, Religion wants to be in its good graces.
Theology is philosophy/ethics for people who already know what conclusion they want to come to. |
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Roger459 Grizzly Bear
Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 709 Location: Pinellas Park, FL, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION? ? ? |
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FIRST OF ALL = = DID YOU READ THE SCRIPTURE REFERENCE = = AND APPLY IT TO THE CONTEXT OF YOUR PRIMARY QUESTION?
JUDIASM follows current dietary guidelines BUT they do not follow the Scriptural Dietary called out in the Books of Moses!
CHRISTIANITY dietary guidelines are none = But Meat Sacrificed to Idols, see = Acts chapter 10 =and= 1Corinthians 6:12-13 =and= Revelation 2:14 & 2:20.
NOW TO YOU DEFINITION OF CULTS? A Cult - by definition = is any Religion = that does not Hold to JESUS AS GOD!
PERHAPS - you have another definition? ? ?
WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE ROE-V-WADE? AND BEFORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, AND BEFORE RESPECT FOR LIFE WAS LOST? AND MOST OF ALL = BEFORE YOU LISTENED TO SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION?
YOU HAVE the choice to do what you want with your body = BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BODY OF THE CHILD YOU CARRY INSIDE?
GOD GIVES AND TAKES LIFE = AS HE SEES FIT! SINCE WHEN = did HE give you the option to take the life of YOUR UNBORN CHILD?
ANSWER: NEVER!
JESUS CAN FORGIVE YOU OR ANYONE OF THEIR SIN, IF THEY WILL CONFESS AND FORSAKE [Proverbs 28:13] AND COME TO HIM = ON HIS TERMS = John 7:38 and other verses. Perhaps you have never seen these verses = listed below ?
(1Corinthians 6:9-10-11) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
(1Cor 6:10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
(1Cor 6:11) AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU: = = BUT= = ye are washed, = = but ye are sanctified, = = but ye are justified in The Name of the Lord Jesus, = = and by the Spirit of our God.
Thank you! Please feel free to e-mail me directly should you desire to correspond in confidence. RR |
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FFT Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 6337 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ROGER459 wrote: | | NOW TO YOU DEFINITION OF CULTS? A Cult - by definition = is any Religion = that does not Hold to JESUS AS GOD! |
   
This "Jesus is God!" business is what is referred to as a "personality cult." _________________ When Science was in its crib, Religion tried to strangle it. When Science was in its infancy, Religion tried to abuse it. Now that Science is grown up, Religion wants to be in its good graces.
Theology is philosophy/ethics for people who already know what conclusion they want to come to. |
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