Are homosexuals going to heaven?

steven · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: Are homosexuals going to heaven?

Are homosexuals going to heaven?

Please Note: If there is a legitimate question in light of the Scriptures, I will be happy to discuss it, but I will not answer any posts that merely espouse personal view(s), sentiments or any self-glorifying debauchery on this subject. Simply, if you have something to say, prove it from the Scriptures.

holly102869 · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:47 am Post subject:

Do you not know the Saints will judge the world?
1 Corinthains 6:2

So unless you are a Saint it would probabley be best not to judge.

" Do not judge, or you too will be judged. for in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will be measured to you"
Matthew 7:1,2

We as a human race love to look at others and show the terrible things that they do. Look for sexual immorality. You will find that the majority of people are. Not because they are homosexual, heterosexual people are just as guilty of the same kind of sin. I really don't understand why we look at others faults and don't try to correct our own faults.

steven · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:33 am Post subject:

holly102869 · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:25 am Post subject:

Homosexuals can not give me the rewards of Heaven, Salvation, etc. Niether can you.
Pointing the finger at these people only hurts you not them.

I am however concerned with why you feel the need to comdemn others.

Ask yourself the question. Did Jesus ever walk up to someone and say "Oh I'm sorry I can't heal you or forgive you your sins." No because if you ask you will be forgiven. We all live in sin..

FFT · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:45 am Post subject:

ChristianWoman1 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 286

will homosexuals go to heaven? If they repent and turn to God, of course. Matt.3:7-8 speaks of those unworthy of baptism. John the baptist gets angry at the "brood of snakes" for coming to be baptized thinking it's ok just because they are decendants of Abraham....he tells them to "repent and turn to God and to prove it by the way you live.

I believe this message is for ALL of us who sin (which is all of us bc we ALL sin). We can't just assume that we are free and clear, we MUST repent and live for God.

steven · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:22 am Post subject:

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 1 Corinthians 6:9

FFT · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:32 am Post subject:

Evee · Moderator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 600

Matthew 10:32 NIV
"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven."

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Whoever would refer to just that. Whoever. Not, whoever except homosexuals. Correct?

I'm curious Steven as to why you say that those who have homosexual relations are not believers of Christ even when they follow Christ in all other aspects?

steven · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject:

Homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Please note the following portions of the Scripture and you'll know why so many FALSE CHRISTIANS consent to homosexuals: "25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie" Rom. 1:25

"not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Rom. 1:32"

God does NOT give over believers, this is only as a result of continual rejection of Christ.

The Greek term for ‘gave them over’ is speaking of handing a prisoner over to his sentence, i.e. when men consistently abandon God, He will abandon them.

Pay attention to the beginning of Romans 1:26 - 'For This Reason', God gave them up, because they denied God's existence and worshiped nature over God they no longer have conscience to the issues of sin and homosexual and vile passions eventually follow, according to these passages.

On Romans 1:32 - knowing God. Not ignorance, but blatant rebellion against God. They knew God because their conscience bore witness to God, the word conscience is literally 'with knowledge of'. A good example of this is a pagan, in simple words, but one as verse 20 tells us was revealed the attributes of God by the conscience and creation itself bearing witness of God.

Please note the following verses in John IN CONTEXT:

18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:18-21

As long as you have air in your lungs, you have the ability to repent.

However, no homosexual will enter the Kingdom of God. The Scriptures say, if you notice, "this is what some of you WERE, but you have been washed" ; when you have been washed and sanctified, you are clean, you are NO LONGER a homosexual, or a thief, or a liar; you are no longer IDENTIFIED by your sin, otherwise you were not really washed.

Why would anyone want to be identified by their sin? Why not rather be identified by Christ, our Redeemer? Identifying yourself by your sin while claiming Christ, is completely contrary to Christ and rejects His atoning work!!

Therefore, NO... homosexuals will NOT be in the Kingdom of God, nor the "sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10[u]nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers". 1 Corinthians 6:9

If we be in Christ, we become sons and co-heirs with Christ. We have been washed, cleansed and purified, annointed and possessed by the Spirit of God, and positionally, we stand righteous in the eyes of God; why then go identify with, or participate in, or even associate with a sin that is not even of the natural, to wear this defiled thing like a cloak, all the while claiming Christ?

This twisted doctrine is as heinous as the sin itself, for its message attempts to pervert the Body of Christ. Now do I have something against homosexuals? No, we are all under sin and they are in need of a savior; besides, I live in California. If a homosexual asks me "Am I going to go to Heaven?", I say, "Absolutely Not. If you continue in your sins, you will not enter the Kingdom of God." Keep in mind, the Scripture says they have been GIVEN OVER to these things.

Steven

FFT · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:52 am Post subject:

taige · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:

ChristianWoman1 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 286

taige:
where in scripture does it say "God judges all sin the same"?

dabmci · Hamster Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wylie

Last time I read the bible there were degrees of punishment and degrees of reward. If you recieve the gift from God the knowledge of who he is and you accept it them continue with bad behavior such as living a life as a homosexual them you are going to be punish. That is your reward. I am sure most robbers don't wake up in the morning and say I am a robber and thats just how God made me, and you have to accept it. Its bad behavior any way you put it. God made us Man and Woman for the purpose to populate the earth. God did not make other genders. That simple! Why is this such a debateable issue. It wrong to flat out say this is what I am when God did not make you this way. You can struggle with feelings but we all struggle with something (wrestle with God), but we have to keep fighting until we die

Thats just my two cents anyway.

God Bless

FFT · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:38 am Post subject:

Yes, yes.