Where is Jehovah's organizat to be found now?

Texas · Kitten Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Ontario

Where is Jehovah's Organization to be found now?

Is there a Religious Organization on this earth today that is appointed by the Christ to represent him? One that has the favor and blessing of almighty God, Jehovah?

It is certainly true that there are now, at this time, many Millions of those who profess to be Christians and followers of the Christ on this earth. As well there are a variety of other Religions on this earth who profess one kind of faith or another. So many in fact it becomes overwhelmingly confusing to try and consider them all.

Out of all of these though, did the Christ supply us with the needed information to identify which one was actually being used by him? Surly, with so many to consider there must be some way to identify the one that is actually being used by him; if such a one exist at all, for just maybe it doesn't exist!

Is it possible that none of the organized Religions on this earth today are appointed to represent the Christ? That none of them have His Father's favor and blessing?

My aim now is to show scripturally that none of the organized religions on the earth now are appointed by God, and none of them are being used by Him! This will come as a shock to the adherents of the many varied religions we see around us, but, as they say: "to be forewarned is to be forearmed"!

It may well be that Jehovah's anger is blazing because of the War-Like conduct of the people that make up these religions, as displayed by the two bloody wars of our Century, and Jehovah's intention is to hold them all accountable for the heavy blood-guilt brought upon them by the over 100 Million bodies sent to their graves because of their war-like attitudes.

When the Christ walked this earth he gave a composite sign of his presence in kingdom power, a sign that would unmistakably show the time period he was invisibly present. The fact that his coming would be invisible would be the reason for that sign to be clearly evident during a particular time period. Without that sign being evident no one would even be aware that he would be present! We have seen the fulfillment of that sign since the year 1914, and we must, by now, be very close to the Christs final arrival!

If anyone studies the prophecies in Matthew 24 - Mark 13 - Luke 21 they will see that the Christ never foretold, in that sign any religious organization that had his Father's favor and blessing; to the contrary all that he foretold for that time period was the prevalence of false prophets with no mention of any true organization that was appointed to represent him. Does anyone wonder why information as critical as that would be ommitted from that sign? The reason that, that information is missing is because none of the relgious organizations on this earth was appointed to represent him, so we do not look for an organized religious body to fill our spiritual needs, we should be looking only to the Christ invisibly present in kingdom power. More on that a little later.

Now, as to the warnings about the false prophets Jesus spoke of, for he said: "For many will come in my name, claiming 'I am the Messiah' and WILL decieve many." [Matthew 24:5] [NIV]

"Many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am He' and WILL deceive many." [Mark 13:6] [NIV]

"He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived, for many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am He,' and, 'the time is near,' Do not follow them." [Luke 21:8]

Jesus continues: "For false Messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." [Mark 13:22] [NIV]

So, Jesus covered this entire world with those words, and among all of those false prophets, no appointed organization would be found anywhere on this earth! How do we know that for a certainty? We know that because of the following words spoken by Jesus:

"At that time if ANYONE says to you, 'Look, here is the Messiah' or, "Look, there he is!' do not believe it." [Mark 13:21] [NIV]
Anyone would cover this entire globe and anyone making a claim to being God's appointed Organization.

Add to that these words of Jesus: "If therefore they say to you, Behold, he is in the desert, go not forth; behold, [he is] in the inner chambers, do not believe [it]. [Compare Matthew 24:26] [WNT] So Jesus covered the World very thoroughly, and he would not be found among any of the foretold false prophets spread across our Globe. To be expected!

Someone might now ask: "Just where do we go then for our spiritual feeding, since the Christ cannot be found on this earth? Do we really need to see with our literal eyes an organization that professes to be appointed by the Christ? Is our hope based solely on what we behold with our literal eyesight? Or on what we can feel and touch? Have we forgotten what Paul said about our hope? Consider the words of Paul on this matter:

"This is what we hoped for when we were saved. When the thing hoped for is seen, there is no more hoping. When a person sees a thing, how can he hope for it?" [Romans 8:24] [WWENT] So, do we really need to see an earthly organization headed by the Christ in order to believe that he is now present? That would not be showing the true faith, now would it? Now what did Paul tell us about faith? He told us this: "Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen." [Hebrews 11:1] [AS] On the basis of those two scriptures we true Christians do not need to see an earthly organization appointed by our heavenly Father, because we hope for "what we do not see". Is that not correct?

We, today, must follow the example set by Moses and all the faithful men/woman of old. About that Paul tells us in Hebrews 11:24-27 - "By faith Moses when he was grown up, refused to be called the Son of Pharoah's daughter; choosing rather to share ill treatment with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; accounting the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt: for he looked unto the recompense of reward. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible." We must all now ask ourselves: 'Are we willing to follow the example set by Moses, and leave behind everything that is necessary to leave behind'? Are we willing to make like sacrifices?

The Apostle John described all of the religions that exist on this earth today in the Revelation account in the following words:

"And he carried me away in the spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a Woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and Ten horns. The Woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with Gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered greatly." [Revelation 17:3-6] [NASB]

At some point in time, very probaly very soon, this Mother of the harlots will be judged and condemned by Jehovah God, but before that occurs, the command is given to Jehovah's people, to get out of there before it is too late to do so! Concerning that, we read in the Revelation account these words:

"And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. For all the Nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the Kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality."

"I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, My people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her." [Revelation 18: 2-6] [NASB]

Was it noticed? It said: "Come out of her My people!" That is, abandon all of the Religions of this World. Get out! Get away from them! Do not participate in their worship, because it is the worship of the demons. The Apostle Paul made that plain in no uncertain terms, for he stated: "No; but the things that the Nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God; and I do not want you to become shares with the demons."[1 Corinthians 10: 20-22] [NWT] Paul adds to this with these words:

"Therefore, Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord, Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." "And I will be a Father to you, and you will be my Sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty." [ 2 Corinthians 6: 14-18] [NIV]

What must one do though after he has followed the command to 'come out of her?' From where do these ones get the spiritual food that they need? Remembering what was stated at Hebrews 11: 24-27 why they simply turn their eyes, minds, and hearts towards the invisible heavens, and see the Christ sitting at the right hand of his Father Jehovah, for that is where God's Organization is at this time, and that is where their spiritual feeding will begin. We must endure as seeing the one who is invisible, as did Moses!

I have shown scripturally that Jehovah's Organization is now a heavenly Organization, and not earthly at all. That is why the Christ never made mention of it when he gave the composite sign of his presence, and that is the reason why we cannot find it here on this earth today.

Each of us by now must appreciate the superior position of the Christ. As it is written about that superior position at John 3: 31 "He that comes from above is over all others ... He that comes from heaven is over all others." We know too, that Jesus is "the one mediator between God and men," as Paul pointed out. [1 Timothy 2:5] Following that, it is written at John 3:35 "The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hands." [Compare John 13:3] [NWT] So, it is not any man, not any religious leader who mediates between God and man, that position is solely in the hands of the Christ, who is "over all others." It is as Jesus himself stated: "All authority has been given me, in heaven and on earth." [Matthew 28: 18] [NWT] This authority has not been passed on to any man, to any religious leader, it is solely in the hands of the Christ! Jesus could say because of that, that, ... "where there are two or three gathered together in my name there I am in their midst." [Matthew 18:20] [NWT] So, no religious organization is needed. It is all in the hands of the Christ, who by means of the Holy Spirit guides, directs and teaches all of those gathered together in his name! Just how does the Holy Spirit work on these believers, you may ask? in the following way:

"But the helper, the Holy Spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you." [John 14:26] [NWT] "When the helper arrives that I will send you from the father, the Spirit of the truth, which proceeds from the Father, that one will bear witness about me." [John 15:26] [NWT] "However when that one arrives, the Spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things coming." [John 16: 13] [NWT]

It is written at Matthew 24:24 that certain ones might possibly mislead even the chosen ones, but as can be seen from the aforementioned scriptures that would be impossible to do because they are taught by means of the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is the truth, so they cannot be misled, but, as I said, some would try to mislead them by teaching different doctrine. The Apostle John focused on this point at 1 John 2: 26,27 where we read the following: "These things I write you about those who are trying to mislead you. And as for you, the annointing that you received from him remains in you, and YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO BE TEACHING YOU, but as the anointing from him is teaching you about all things, and is true, and is no lie, and just as it has taught you, remain in union with him." [1 John 2: 26,27] [NWT]

Bearing all of the aforementioned in mind it should be clear now why we do not need any of the organized religions on this earth to teach us the Bible, yet even in the face of everything written here, many will still turn to the organized Churchs for their spiritual feeding, and suffer spiritual starvation because they lack the essential ingredient for teaching, the Holy Spirit. Without that, their worship is an exercize in futility, to end them all! This is very probably why Jesus said the following: "Nevertheless, when the Son of Man arrives, will he really find the faith on earth." [Luke 18:8] [NWT]

It will be only among those who continue ... "steadfast as seeing the one who is invisible." [Hebrews 11:27]

Nothing has changed from the first Century. Jesus was ... "the head of the congregation" back then, and he is still head of the congregation now as well. [Colossians 1:18] [Ephesians 5:23] He is also still the "leader" and "Teacher." [Matthew 23:8, 10] Those positions have not changed either! That is just another reason why we do not need any Body of men claiming to be the appointed representatives of the Christ to teach us the Bible. It is the Christ who now does all of the teaching through the medium of the Holy Spirit.

There is an account in the Bible at Numbers 21:9 that has application at this time, and is of crucial importance to all Christians today. That account reads as follows:

"The LORD said to Moses, "Make a serpent and put it on a pole, anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." "So Moses made a bronze serpent and put it on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived." How then does this apply to all Christians today? The words of Jesus will clarify this for us, for he stated: "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; that whosoever believes will in Him have eternal life." Numbers 21:8, 9; John 3:14]

This article has lifted up the Son of Man, and placed him in the office that is rightfully his, so now each one of us must raise our eyes to the invisible heavens, as those Israelites had to gaze at that serpent to gain life, so we too, today must fix our gaze on the Son of Man and "see the one who is invisible" in the invisible heavens. Failure to do that will mean the opposite of life, Death, as it meant death for those Israelites who had no opportunity to gaze at the serpent in the wilderness. [Numbers 21:6] So, as Jehovah made the way out for those Israelites so too, today He has provided us with his dear Son so that we all may have life! [Numbers 21:8] [John 3:16

Now, as a direct result of the many false Prophets being on the scene during the presence of Christ this entire World would be lying under a blanket of thick spiritual darkness, but with the darkness the light of truth would suddenly begin to beam forth. [Joel 2:28,29] Notice the words of Jehovah, through his penman: "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you. For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and thick darkness the peoples, but the LORD will arise upon you. And Nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising." Further to that we read: "The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwell in the land of deep darkness, on them has light shined."[Isaiah 60:1-3; 9:2] Jesus himself alluded to this prophecy in these words: "the people dwelling in darkness have seen a great light, and those dwelling in the region and shadow of death, on them a light has dawned." [Matthew 4:16] Now Jesus could say that because he was "the light of the World." [John 8:12] But what was this great light Isaiah foretold, what was this light that shined on them? Now, we know it had to do with the Christ, but where would we look now to show that to be true?

Notice, if you will, this next statement made by Jesus when he gave the composite sign of his presence in kingdom power: "For just as the lightening flashes from the east and shines and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be." [AB] [Matthew 24:27] [Compare Luke 17:24]

Now, this would not be a literal flash of lightening, and most would not discern its flashing. Still, some would get the sense of what Jesus was saying here. Who might those be? These next words of Jesus will aid us in knowing the answer to that question. "Where ever the body shall be, also the eagles shall be gathered thither." [Matthew 24:28] [WNT] Now, in saying the body, Jesus was making reference to himself, but who are these eagles?

We know that an eagle is a very far-sighted Bird who can spot a meal on the desert floor from a long way off; zooming in on it and gorging himself until full.
So, the eagle pictures far-sighted individuals who see the Christ in kingdom power and turn to him for their spiritual feeding. So, wherever the Christ is there is where far sighted Christians will be gathered, and they continue steadfast as "seeing the one who is invisible."

While this spiritually bedarkened world continuse its search for the Christ among the many varied religions of this world, these sharp-eyed eagle-like individuals will turn all of their attention on the invisible heavens where the Christ sits enthroned at the right hand of his Father, for that is where Jehovah's organization now is, in the invisible heavens!

knuckle · Young Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 501

Hi Texas------------

I see you have returned to the fray Smile

much love-----------knuckle

Nobby · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:46 am Post subject:

Hi Texas, Very good Study. Glad to have you back. Very Happy

God Bless You
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Texas · Kitten Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Ontario

Texas · Kitten Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Ontario

Yehushuan

Zathrus · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:

I am so totally with Yehu here. And as usual, I couldn't have said it better.

A few of my own thoughts I will add:

Texas · Kitten Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Ontario

Dust · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject:

Good Job Texas!

There are a couple minor points and/or elements of your essay I might be inclined to take issue with, but rather than highlight them, I'll let the principle truth of the matter stand, and once again say.....Good Job!

I think, due to where you have come from, you have a more defined view than most on this subject. I do believe many, who are of the denominational-transcending body-of-Christ, are becoming more and more aware of what you have highlighted.
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Luvnlife · Lion King Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1200 Location: US

Texas:

Nobby · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:

Jesus is coming back for His Church. All He will be interested in is the Church that is in the heart of his people. We are the church! Very Happy

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cballard · Grizzly Bear Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 716 Location: WV

I disagree with the study because I believe in the Trinity. Yes, God did offer Himself to Himself. What could God offer but Himself? If Jesus was not God, he was a created being just like ourselves.
I think the bunch of you have lost touch with early Christianity. The whole argument about the Trinity was argued and solved by the Church before the Bible was even declared Scripture. You throw out the Trinity and you've thrown out early Christian beliefs.
Answer me this, Texas. How does Jesus save you if He isn't God?

Luvnlife · Lion King Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1200 Location: US

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