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atoz
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| regnvejr wrote: |
....So the issue of how valid the differing views are, that has high relevance in today's world when people are being vilified for not having the "right" Faith. |
atoz: faith working by Love, Gal 5:6,
the right faith is
the Faith in or of Love
for all faiths and for the faith of no faith,
for the faithful and the faithless,
for those full of faith and for those of little faith,
for those with faith and those with fear.
with faith in Love,
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atoz
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: |
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So, people 'feeling' that they are being led by the spirit is what is in question then?
I'd think that scripture would be the final arbitrator of these different 'feelings'. The Holy Spirit would not lead one into false understanding of God's Word. The two work in harmony with each other, not in contention. |
atoz: Correct.
Because the HS of Love loves every word of God and its opposite, the HS of Love loving unconditionally can lead and will lead us into opposing truths in the word of God and reconcile them easily.
Such as these two side by side:
Proverbs 26:
4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
in the the Love that brings harmony out of disharmony,
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atoz
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| YLTYLT wrote: |
Exactly,
Concerning the Spirit, one of the simlariities between verses I have most recently noticed is from:
Ephesians 5:18-21:
| Quote: | 18And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
19Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
20Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. |
and Colossians 3:16-19.
| Quote: | 16Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. |
By comparing these scriptures, we can se that being "filled with the Spirit" and "having the word of Christ dwell" in us produces the same results: Singing to the lord, giving thanks, and submitting to others.
So when the word of Christ dwells in us we are filled with the Spirit.
As far as those who are "led by the Spirit" and the differences in the interpretation of scripture. My general opinion is that when we take the Word of God over our own, this is faith. When we act on this faith, we are being led by the Spirit. (This is very simplified, but its the crux(pun intended  ) of the matter.)
The word and the Spirit work together. If one gets the Word they will have the Spirit.
But to extend this thought, although my opinion of these scripture comparisons may seem sound, if in the future I come across a third passage of scripture that seems to contradict my current position, I must consider one of 3 possibilities.
1. My first conlclusion about the the first 2 verses is wrong.
2. My interpretation of the third verse is wrong.
3. Or Both Interpretions are wrong.
This may sometimes be hard for people to do because they have live so many years believing one thing. But when scripture challenges what they believe they want try to make it fit into what they believe. I know I have a tendency to do this my self. But I still try to be objective for the purpose of making sure the truth is revealed. |
YLTYLT,
XLNTXLNT!smile
1 John 4:16
16And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
God is love;
and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God,
and God in him.
in love,
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atoz
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: |
God has provided a test, as to who has the truths of the Bible.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
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SS,
good!
And since God is Light, 1 John 1:5,
and God is Love, 1 John 4:8,16,
then Light is Love.
Therefore the Light of Love in them will make them speak according to the Love at the basis of or as the Nail on which hang all the law and the testimony.
Eccles 12:
11The words of the wise are as goads,
and [b]as nails]/b] fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
in Love,
atoz |
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