A question for Atheists...

rjustice7 · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: A question for Atheists...

Hey guys,

I'm Christian and believe in the creation story, however I would like to know more about evolution. I figure that since all the atheists I know are evolutionists, you guys could help me understand what it is in some detail that y'all believe. I'm not posting this with intents to argue, I just want to know and understand evolution a little better.

Thanks...

FFT · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject:

This would probably be better of in the CvE forum, but I think I understand your justification

The theory of evolution explains why life on Earth as it is today. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of accepting the best solution available. If something else were to come along that actually worked better (and wasn't just a copout) you'd see people switching to it.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. The rest is just details. I'd be happy to hook you up with some of those if there's anything in particular you're interested in.

rjustice7 · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: Thanks FFT

Thanks FFT,

I just wanted to know about Evolution in general. The beginning, how we evolved through years (not a belief I hold personally, but one I would like to know more about), and just things like that. Maybe there's a good web-site you could turn me on to that I could learn something from or anything helps. I just think that as a Christian and someone who believes creation, I should at least know something about evolution before I dismiss it entirely. I don't want to be ignorant on the matter.

FFT · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:20 am Post subject:

Ah. Well, in that case, start here. Then give this a read. It's a long read, but it's well-written.

P1234567890 · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks FFT

rjustice7 · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: Thanks...

Thanks for the posts guys.

FFT:

I am finding the web-sites you left me to be incredibly helpful, I'm still in the process of reading them. Thanks for the help.

P1234567890:

Thanks, I try to maintain a good attitude. I am keeping an open mind to what you said as I read the information. I agree that science and scripture are not enemies. I think alot of Christians don't understand that. Truthfully, it seems like most Atheists I know, know more about Christianity and the Bible, than Christians know about things like evolution. Most Christians stear clear of it, and label it as evil, without understanding it. I can say as of now (because I still don't know too much) that I am all the way for creation, but shouldn't I at least know something about evolution? I think I definitely should. So far what I've been reading is somewhat interesting.

P1234567890 · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Thanks...

FFT · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:11 am Post subject:

Well, that's not true. He's the first that's actually seemed honest about it, though.

P1234567890 · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:38 am Post subject:

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Hi rjustice,

I think p123... did a good Job of explaining that God appears to have used evolution as a way of creation. Everything in our reality seems to "evolve". Experience is the thing of supreme value in life, that seems to be the ordained way of becoming more like God. It's quite the adventure.

I've been a student of the Urantia Book for over twenty years by way of my father who discovered it in the 60's. The Urantia revelation covers extensively the evolutionary history of our planet starting with the organization of our solar system all the way up to contemporary man. It's an extraordinary story and makes a lot of sense.

http://www.urantia.org/

The great fear of Christians is to question the so called "sacred scriptures". The story of Genesis was likely passed down by oral tradition until it was faithfully put down on paper and merged into the OT during the Babylonian captivity. In that age they simply had no way of knowing what we know today via scientific methods.

Genesis contains fragments of pre Adamic man and pre Adamic history. Subsequent editing by the Judaite priesthood left those clues in the scripture which, ironically validates scientific discovery, but in reverse.

Don't confuse progress with doubt, believing in or not believing in evolution or scriptural perfection have nothing to do with having faith in God in the present.

Colter