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theseldomscene Banned

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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yeah...verse 10 of jude tells us clearly..
that they speak things they don't know...saying what the bible teaches doesn't qualify as that...so again...you are just misusing more scripture..
then speaks of those that know naturally...like brute beast...like you tyring to teach to love the devil..teaching things you've don't know... |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 4189
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Dear TSS,
since you were so kind to me in Love to day re. Argenta, even tho it was out of Hate for enemy-haters,
I am going to be kind in Love of the enemy-haters to you :
Here is your new text of Love up front so you don't have to read the rest if you don't want to:
It BROTHERLY Love for ANGELS who are just good demons just as demons are bad angels:
Hebrews 13
1Let brotherly love continue.
2Be not forgetful to entertain strangers:
for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Wd you say that the obvious context is
BROtherly LOVE
for man, good and bad,
for angels, good and bad,
for brothers, good and bad,
for sons, familial and strangers,
and for stangers, good and bad?smile
theseldomscene: no...just calling what GOD calls them.
atoz: u're just calling them in Hate what God calls them in Love!
tss: as GOD hates a sower of discord also..no ...it does not say hHE hates the discord...though HE well may...
atoz: hmmm, 'he well may' ah, you're getting it!smile
God's Love for his enemies and yours is slowly worming itself in your heart and mind.
That Love is indelible!smile
tss; notice how satan was not called a son...but came among them..noted as seperate...
atoz: that's why God loves and commands you to love those who are his sons AND to love as yourself those who are NOT his sons nor family TOO: he loves the stranger!
levit 19
34But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you,
and thou shalt love him as thyself;
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
hmmm, you can run but ........what did RR say?smile
tss: ...actaully JESUS told me to follow HIM...and again...
atoz: so you don't follow paul as he follows Christ?
hmm
1 Corinthians 11:1
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
tss;....never even hints to loving satran but teaches us the oppoisite...sir...
atoz: How can you condemn Satan for hating you when you have the same satanic attitude by hating him back?
Do you love yourself as a hypocrite?
tss; the bible says cursed is the man who trust in man...
atoz: Good one to use against yourself!
The bible means cursed in love by God is the man who trusts in man while hating God or hating who god tells him to love or hating who he distrusts!
tss;
i have no friends outside of immediate family i can really say are close enough to betray me at this time...that i would feel anyway...
atoz: that's sad and makes sense:
Hate of enemies means Hate of your own family as enemies:you only love your family conditionally as friends; you wd hate openly them if they ever turned enemies with the hidden Hate you now latently have for them and yourself!
U are also teaching your family to do the same to you: they only love u as friend and wd hate you as enemy with the hate they now have secretly for you.
Will be praying in Love to God for you to be a real friend to yourself and family:
A friend loves at ALL times: proverbs 17:17.
tss; now about my last post...
GOD hates a lying tongue...and the devil is the father of lies...GOD hates him...
GOD hates a sower of discord...the devil is the sower of bad seed...GOD hates him...
be like your FATHER in heaven
atoz: U telling me to be like what you are not?
there is hope for you!smile
What's coming over you?
Love, it must be!smile
I am: I do love the just and the unjust, God my friend and satan my enemy, the good and the evil, son and stranger!
in love and r,
atoz |
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theseldomscene Banned

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | [quote="atoz"]Dear TSS,
since you were so kind to me in Love to day re. Argenta, even tho it was out of Hate for enemy-haters,
I am going to be kind in Love of the enemy-haters to you : |
it is the height of wickedness and arrogence to speak like you know someone elses motives...
| Quote: | | Here is your new text of Love up front so you don't have to read the rest if you don't want to: |
thanks...i took your advice and stopped here...for i am sure all that follows is more out of context twisted verses to say somehting other then what the bible says...that must be changed so you can speak for GOD without any proof of your supposed changes....you have been refuted on every point in this topic so far because you are wrong sir or maam...
it is easy to do...if you want ot see...and if the rest of your post is more of the same stuff...just say so..i will show you...fori know before i read it...if you are saying we are to love the devil or you are saying GOD does...the bible tells us clearly that is wrong... |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 4189
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="theseldomscene"][quote]
it is the height of wickedness and arrogence to speak like you know someone elses motives...
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Hmmmm
So out of your own mouth, Tss, you are condemning yourself as wicked and as arrogant by presuming to know or implying you know my motives are wicked and arrogant?
Do you love or hate hypocrites or adversarial hypocrites or hypocritical adversaries, or wicked enemies or arrogant enemies?
I don't know nor need to know your motives, I only know your attitude which you told me was that you hate Satan as your enemy and that God hates esau!
Your attitude predetermines the quality in whatever motive you have. As in malice-afore-thought, the thought or motive is irrelevant. God looks on the heart: 1 sam 16:7
Remember?
If not, let me ask you again:
Do you love satan as 'your enemy' as God commands you to love your enemies in 1 peter 5:8-9 and matthew 5:44-45, 48?
To love demon-possessed people while hating the demons is like loving black people while hating the color black.
Matthew 16
22Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23But he turned, and said unto Peter,
Get thee behind me, Satan..
I'll give you a break.
in Love of God's enemies and mine,
atoz |
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theseldomscene Banned

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="atoz[quote]"][quote="theseldomscene"][quote]
it is the height of wickedness and arrogence to speak like you know someone elses motives...
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Hmmmm
So out of your own mouth, Tss, |
i don't believe that is necessary...for i will show your lack of honesty here...watch carefully..
| Quote: | | you are condemning yourself as wicked and as arrogant by presuming to know or implying you know my motives are wicked and arrogant? |
no sir...i read the bible and learned those that think they know someones heart are wrong for only GOD does...and here was your remark...so watch your own mouth and this embarassing silliness won't happen to you...
| Quote: | since you were so kind to me in Love to day re. Argenta, even tho it was out of Hate for enemy-haters,
I am going to be kind in Love of the enemy-haters to you : |
so based on the scriptures and your own words i say you are arrogant and haughty to make such a statement for you don't know crap about what or why i did what i did...so i don't think i need to watch anything there friend...it is your own judgdements that have caused you to err...again..
| Quote: | | Do you love or hate hypocrites or adversarial hypocrites or hypocritical adversaries, or wicked enemies or arrogant enemies? |
no ...i do love proving heresy like you are teaching to be bunk and showing how thse that teach it like to judge things they are ignorant of like those men jude talks about....
| Quote: | | I don't know nor need to know your motives |
well you are the one judging them as i have shown...so ??...
, | Quote: | I only know your attitude which you told me was that you hate Satan as your enemy and that God hates esau!
Your attitude predetermines the quality in whatever motive you have. As in malice-afore-thought, the thought or motive is irrelevant. |
bable babble babble...this does nothing to help your case...you can't show with scripture we are to love the devil...and that doctrine is of the devil...
| Quote: | | God looks on the heart: 1 sam 16:7 |
then why do you presume to know someone elses?...hmmmm...
| Quote: | Remember?
If not, let me ask you again:
Do you love satan as 'your enemy' as God commands you to love your enemies in 1 peter 5:8-9 and matthew 5:44-45, 48? |
i don't love the devil at all and only one mislead by him would...
| Quote: | | To love demon-possessed people while hating the demons is like loving black people while hating the color black. |
that was the stupidest comparison i have ever heard...
| Quote: | Matthew 16
22Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23But he turned, and said unto Peter,
Get thee behind me, Satan..
I'll give you a break. |
thanks.......a true break would be for you to read the bible for a change and quite rewriting what you don't like in it...  |
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atoz Emperor of the Solar System
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Break over!smile
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July 5, 4.34pm
well you [atoz] are the one judging them as i have shown...so ??...
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Atoz: So you TSS are judging that I am judging them?smile
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance,
but judge righteous judgment in Love of the rightoeus and the unrighteous, in Love of the judgers and the judged.
It's a judgment-call even when you decide to NOT judge!
So the only choice you have is:
Are you going to judge in Love or judge in Hate!?
By the way,
how are you going to judge the BAD angels: in Satanic Hate or in Godly Love?
| theseldomscene wrote: |
July 5, 2007, 4.34pm
i don't love the devil at all and only one mislead by him would...
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Since you say that you hate the devil or satan, I justly judge in Love of you as wrong & right and of satan as wrong & right that you are wrong to hate satan and wrong to judge satan in hate which wrong Hatred is how HE wrongly by & in Hate judges you!
1 Corinthians 6
1Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust JUDGES WHO UNJUSTLY IN HATE JUDGE THE GUILTY,
and not before the saints WHO, WITH LOVE FOR THE GUILTY AND FOR THE INNOCENT, JUDGE THE THE GUILTY?
2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the SINNERS IN THE world?
and if the world shall be judged by you,
are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters IN YOURSELVES AND AMONG YOURSELVES?
3Know ye not that we shall judge THE GOOD AND BAD angels?
how much more things that pertain to this life?
4If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, YOU set them to judge who are IN HATE AND SO least ABLE AND LEAST esteemed in the church.
5I speak IN LOVEto your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man OF JUST LOVE WHO JUDGES WITH JUST LOVE FOR BOTH THE JUST AND UNJUST among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge IN LOVE between his brethren?
6But brother goeth to law IN HATE with brother, and that before the unbelievers WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN LOVE FOR THE JUST AND UNJUST.
7Now therefore there is utterly a fault OF HATE among you, because ye go to law one IN HATE with another. Why do ye not rather IN LOVE OF RIGHT AND WRONG take wrong? why do ye not rather IN LOVE OF YOURSLEVES AS FRAUDS AND AS DEFRAUDERS suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
in Just Love, in the Justice of 100% equal Love for the good judges and the good judged, for the bad judges and the bad judged, for the good angels and the good people, for the bad angels and the bad people,
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