Who Pays Tithes Today???

Nobby · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:57 am Post subject: Who Pays Tithes Today???

Is paying tithes importent Question

Is not paying it a Sin Question

If so what is the sin Question

Is it a sin against the church Question

Or God

Why is this one sermon that all of us Christians, just don't want to hear Question

I know most everyone of you will be more then anxious to answer this post! (It's not my fault guys , Rev. gave me the idea!) Very Happy

Let me hear from you Exclamation

Zathrus · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:11 pm Post subject:

I used to pay tithes and was glad to. I now believe I don't have to so I try to give more than 10% not just to the place I fellowship at, but to ministries that preach the gospel message and ones that help hungry and poor people.

If I don't have 10% to give, I don't sweat it. I do what I can when I can.

vsjb34 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 281

Yes, I pay tithes and I believe it is a Sin not to. Whose money is it anyways ours or Gods? All you hold is a gift.

Malachi and Leviticus support this. The Bible is one message.

Nobby · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:22 pm Post subject: Who Pays Tithes Today???

Amen, Zathrus & vsjb34, Very good answers Exclamation

Yes it all belongs to Him anyway! Smile

vsjb34 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 281

I just want to add that God has given us a position of stewardship with what is His. He is testing your faithfulness to trust Him.

I didn't used to tithe. 3 years ago I decided to and made a budget and have stuck to it.
You know what? You can do it. You will find a way. I encourage you all to do this. You will be blessed!

gswisher · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Posts: 421

Tiger75 · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:56 am Post subject: Giving

With regards to giving if you look at the Old Testament you will find that tithing was just a 'bare minimum'. I don't believe the New Covanent teaches a legalistic adherence to tithing but it is a worthy guideline to those who love God and are called according to His purpose.

Here's what I think the NT says with regards to giving:

vsjb34 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 281

The best book I have found on Tithing so far:

Money, Possessions and Eternity by Randy Alcorn.

Please pick it up. He argues the case for tithing very well from Scripture.

Better yet, if your local library has it save money and check it out!

Van · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:15 am Post subject: Tithing

The Old Testament tithes were taken more than once per year. If you add all of them up, it works out to 23 and one third percent.

All that we have belongs to God and should be invested in Godly purpose.
Those that do not give to the church to support its staff and ministries are very close to the sin of not practicing what they preach.

Bottom line, Paul teaches that we should give to God off the top, not what is left over, that we should give what we have purposed in our heart to give after prayful consideration and study of the matter, and that we should give sacrifically. It might be less than 10% or it might be more.

Here are three passages that address support for our local church:

1 Corinthians 16:1-2
2 Corinthians 9:6-12
Luke 21:1-4

vsjb34 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 281

Isn't it interesting that in Malachi 4 God directly challenges us to tithe. He throws down the gauntlet as it were and says I dare you.

I can attest that he has not failed me yet. Please take up the challenge. It will change how you look at money and totally remove any doubt you ever had about God's provision.

vsjb34 · Fierce Poodle Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 281

Sorry, I meant Malachi 3. Better yet, read the whole book, it's short.

Fake · Tiger Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862

Zathrus · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:12 am Post subject: Micah 3

Fake,
I read it. The passage you're obviously referring to is this:
9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.
10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.

This passage is not condemning the practice of those in ministry being supported by lay people. It is condemning the motivation of those in the priesthood, and those claiming to be prophets in Micah's day.

There are plenty of passages approving of people in ministry being supported by those who benefit from their ministry.
Read 1 Corinthians 9.
And if you want to go back to the old testament, the Levitical priests were specifically told they were not to raise crops or livestock, but live off of a portion of the offerings the other 11 tribes brought.

What the Bible rightly condemns is preaching to get money from people.

Fake · Tiger Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862

Nobby · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:08 am Post subject: Tything

Fake, God doesn't need our money, but how long do you think our local church could stay open if it's members didn't support it.
The only way you can understand is to believe. I know that some religious groups go over board & ask for money bigtime!
I have never, since I've served the Lord, regretted paying my tythe!