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Trinity1
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes it is shocking isnt it?! God forbid, not everyone wants democracy!!
Look how well the Iraqis have taken to your democracy for example?


The Iraqi's, or the Iranians and Al Queda? Odd how hard it is for you to differentiate between the two. There seems to be quite a bit of Iranian ordinance going off in Iraq right now.

Also, I suppose 70% of the population that voted in the last election were simply wishfully wanting the return of the good ole days where Saddam got 100% of the vote. Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Aran despots equate to Islamic leaders? Are you stupid trinity?


Well... yea... as a matter of fact I am. I'm prolly the biggest idiot on this board... but even this idiot ain't making the case that people like to be ruled by dictators or despots... Rolling Eyes

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In fact, the majority in Arab countries would prefer the Islamic state, but its these despots which are suppressing them. Case in example, look at Egpyt, under the 'democratic' clown Mubarak, and how he's had to constantly rig elections, outlaw the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Read up on the MB, and their support amungst the Egyptian people.


Kinda a funny that even someone who is stupid knows the dif between an Arab and an Egyptian... but I digress... or at least you do... I was referring to the Saudi Royals, Kuwaiti's, Syrians...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trinity1 wrote:


The Iraqi's, or the Iranians and Al Queda? Odd how hard it is for you to differentiate between the two. There seems to be quite a bit of Iranian ordinance going off in Iraq right now.


Al Q makes up a small % of Iraqi Resistance; much of it is home grown. As for the Iranian ordinance, it needs someone to press the buttons, and thats right, they're Iraqis doing that.

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Also, I suppose 70% of the population that voted in the last election were simply wishfully wanting the return of the good ole days where Saddam got 100% of the vote. Laughing Laughing Laughing


No, most of them were wanting the shia majority in power, hence they voted. But of course Iraq has taken beautifully to democracy, and welcomed it with open arms and everythings rosy.

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Aran despots equate to Islamic leaders? Are you stupid trinity?


Well... yea... as a matter of fact I am. I'm prolly the biggest idiot on this board... but even this idiot ain't making the case that people like to be ruled by dictators or despots... Rolling Eyes


No, they dont, especially the ones propped up by the good ol' USA.

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In fact, the majority in Arab countries would prefer the Islamic state, but its these despots which are suppressing them. Case in example, look at Egpyt, under the 'democratic' clown Mubarak, and how he's had to constantly rig elections, outlaw the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Read up on the MB, and their support amungst the Egyptian people.


Kinda a funny that even someone who is stupid knows the dif between an Arab and an Egyptian... but I digress... or at least you do... I was referring to the Saudi Royals, Kuwaiti's, Syrians...


After Iraq and Afghanistan, Im sure not a single Arab wants America's exported "democracy", with death and destruction as a special offer. Trust me. Americas little plan of spreading the seeds of their democracy wont work.
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Trinity1
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiptronic wrote:
Trinity1 wrote:
The Iraqi's, or the Iranians and Al Queda? Odd how hard it is for you to differentiate between the two. There seems to be quite a bit of Iranian ordinance going off in Iraq right now.

Al Q makes up a small % of Iraqi Resistance; much of it is home grown. As for the Iranian ordinance, it needs someone to press the buttons, and thats right, they're Iraqis doing that.


Well of course there are Iraqi's doing that. I mean, if Al Queda or Iranians kidnapped my family and told me if I didn't go martyr myself for Allah... or them in this case, they would have to do the pleasure, of Allah of course, of hacking their heads off. So, yea... I gues you have a valid point Tip... Iraqi's who have had their family members kidnapped are pressing the buttons. Rolling Eyes

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Also, I suppose 70% of the population that voted in the last election were simply wishfully wanting the return of the good ole days where Saddam got 100% of the vote. Laughing Laughing Laughing

No, most of them were wanting the shia majority in power, hence they voted. But of course Iraq has taken beautifully to democracy, and welcomed it with open arms and everythings rosy.


Huh? Are you only getting your news from Al Jezeera? Did you miss the fact that over 50% of the Sunni's cast their ballots in the last election... or did that little factoid not make on that unbiased network?

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In fact, the majority in Arab countries would prefer the Islamic state, but its these despots which are suppressing them. Case in example, look at Egpyt, under the 'democratic' clown Mubarak, and how he's had to constantly rig elections, outlaw the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Read up on the MB, and their support amungst the Egyptian people.

Kinda a funny that even someone who is stupid knows the dif between an Arab and an Egyptian... but I digress... or at least you do... I was referring to the Saudi Royals, Kuwaiti's, Syrians...

After Iraq and Afghanistan, Im sure not a single Arab wants America's exported "democracy", with death and destruction as a special offer. Trust me. Americas little plan of spreading the seeds of their democracy wont work.


Well of course they want the likes of the Taliban, military dictators like Saddam, religious zealots like the Mullahs in Iran, or the despot in Syria taking care of their little civil liberties... do you even think about this... would you like someone telling you how much in taxes you are going to pay… without the benefit of your own opinion? How about how the money is spent… you get dink while they get to live it up in a palace or two… or three… or 50? That sound like a good deal to you? How about religious freedom…. oh boy… this is a good one. If I’m a Muslim and I convert to Christianity… what happens Tip? Do I get a thank you card wishing me well from the local Imam? Does the government support my decision based on their policy (that you had no input in or evidently don’t want any input formulating) of tolerance?

No… Sir… I think your ideas are delusional. They are hateful. Repressive. Bigoted. They are reminiscent of centuries old ideas that relegate humans to servitude. America may not be perfect… I’m not arguing that… but given the option of liberty… verses a certain slow subservient death… I say liberty. After all… liberty is a gift from God… and every time men try to exercise the granting of it… well… pick an Arab country and you see what happens.
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