Sin?

MoJo · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: Sin?

Okay, I've gotten side-tracked from my truth thread and will get back to it later, but understanding this is weighing on my mind.

knuckle · Young Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 501

Hi MoJo--------

which taketh away the sin of the world. ---has nothing to do with our ability to sin.Christ bears the burden.How?By removing the consequence of transgression.

Christ was "made" sin by 1--being born in the flesh and 2---being born under the law When we are born again we are born of the Spirit and under grace through His resurrection.

The propitiation is only for OUR past sins because once we are born again we cannot trespass a law we are not under.

Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

and now you have me thinking on how to word what I am going to post so it makes sense-----more to come later

much love------------knuckle

knuckle · Young Wolf Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 501

Hi MoJo-------

the working of grace

Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

we are called righteous in faith because of grace though we still sin.We may deceive our selves that we are without sin because God doesn't hold us accountable (we are called righteous) but if we have the spirit WE WILL.The judgement seat of Christ (as opposed to the White Throne Judgement ) is just as effective in conviction.We will be chastened, we will walk through the fire every moment of day.

much love---------knuckle

Silver Surfer · Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:54 am Post subject:

Salvation, is IMPOSSIBLE...without an understanding of what the Bible defines a sin.

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

And what 'sins' is anyone being 'saved' from ?
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alxphilosopher · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:

I need a point of clarification:

Are you having this problem because you are saying that if we accept Christ, and we are 'born again', that this 'birth' makes us 'born of God'?

Because if not, I don't see the problem with our transgressions and resultant sin. We are born of man and woman, flesh and bone, therefore the 'sinless' state that a being 'born of God' would exist in would be moot for man, who is born, not of God, but of man.
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james · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject:

alxphilosopher,

Some of these post you are answering are older and some of these people are not around anymore, you may not get a response.