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Schuckdaddy
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Location: Oregon
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| God has revealed his message through the written word. We have his message in the text. The Holy Spirit guides us as we read. But I think that the reason no believer is a perfect reader is the same reason that no believer is a perfect person. We still have the flesh present, which thwarts our attempts at holiness and in this case understanding. As we rely on our brothers and sisters for encouragement and accountability in walking the Christian walk, I don't see the problem with in the same way, going to our brothers and sisters with our struggles as we read Scripture. There is a difference between getting your information for life straight from human sources and getting your information for life from Scripture and asking your brothers and sisters to assist, correct, encourage, and train you in a pursuit of a better understanding of God's Word. The first should be avoided, but the second I would strongly encourage. We are to be a united body, not a bunch of limbs and organs flopping around, independently doing our own thing. |
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Silver Surfer
Emperor of the World
Joined: 12 Jul 2003
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Location: Hayden, Idaho, USA
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Divine revelation vs. human wisdom |
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| sandra3102 wrote: | How do we distinguish “divine revelation” from “human wisdom”?
It looks like Christianity is divided because, instead of divine revelation from the word of God, it is human wisdom that made people believe differently about the word of God.
What do you think? |
Divine Revelation: 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.
Human wisdom: Sunday worship services, which the Bible does not support.
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| s.s. wrote: | | Sunday worship services, which the Bible does not support |
none can really argue against that.... 
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Nobby
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Nobby wrote: | | Saturday worship services, which the Bible does not support |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Nobby wrote: | | Nobby wrote: | | Saturday worship services, which the Bible does not support :lol: |
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I had wondered how opposed to the Bible you might be.
The 7th day sabbath just happens to be on Saturday.....just as the 1st day of the week, just happens to be on Sunday.
Trying to avoid God's commandments, on a technicality, won't serve as an excuse on God's Judgment day.
Jesus Christ proved that with satan, in HIS temptation in the wilderness (Matthew 4).
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Nobby
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| SS wrote: | | I had wondered how opposed to the Bible you might be. |
Who made you my judge?? 
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Schuckdaddy
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Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Oregon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Who made Saturday the beginning of the week and Sunday the end? Society. Who can change that if they want to? Society. These things aren't set in stone. When we refer to the weekend what days does that include? Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. Monday is when the typical work week begins. So they way we actually practice our week is with Sunday at the end. This really doesn't matter though. The sabbath is for man not man for the sabbath. |
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Silver Surfer
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Location: Hayden, Idaho, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Nobby wrote: | | SS wrote: | | I had wondered how opposed to the Bible you might be. |
Who made you my judge?? :? |
God said this....I didn't.....
8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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Nobby
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| SS wrote: | God said this....I didn't.....
8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. |
SS, you are judging me again! 
By quoting the above scripture, YOU are saying that I have a carnal mind! That's judging!
I see nothing wrong with you worshiping God on a Saturday! That's because I do it myself! But I also Worship Him the other six day's! My church group meet on Sunday to Worship together!
I will not have you continually judging other members on this board.
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Nobby wrote: | | SS wrote: | God said this....I didn't.....
8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. |
SS, you are judging me again! :shock:
By quoting the above scripture, YOU are saying that I have a carnal mind! That's judging! :?
I see nothing wrong with you worshiping God on a Saturday! That's because I to it myself! But I also Worship Him the other six day's! My church group meet on Sunday to Worship together!
I will not have you continually judging other members on this board. |
You haven't figured it out yet ?
I'm trying to save your lives !!!
You haven't studied how God's Judgment Day works, in detail...have you ?
Do you know what God is going to ask on Judgment Day ?
Well, I do !
God has given the SDA church the mission of telling the world about God's Judgment Day......
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
1 Peter 4:17 For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God ?
4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear ?
I have to answer to God if I don't inform people about God's Judgment Day, and how to pass it.
I'm not about to have ANYONE point a finger at me, and say: "WHY didn't you warn me abouth this" ?
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ss wrote: | | I'm not about to have ANYONE point a finger at me, and say: "WHY didn't you warn me abouth this" ? |
i promise you friend...as sure as there is a star right now...in the night sky...if we find out on that day that you were right...
none here can do that...for you have told us...over...and over.....and over....and over...
and over...
to this i will be bound to testify on that day...
even if you are wrong or right...
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| theseldomscene wrote: | | ss wrote: | | I'm not about to have ANYONE point a finger at me, and say: "WHY didn't you warn me abouth this" ? |
i promise you friend...as sure as there is a star right now...in the night sky...if we find out on that day that you were right...
none here can do that...for you have told us...over...and over.....and over....and over...
and over...
to this i will be bound to testify on that day...
even if you are wrong or right...
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BUT, I don't want ANYONE to wait until the Execution of God's Final Judgment decree....for people to find out.....
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity [color=red](sin) . [/color]
THIS is what I'm trying to prevent !!!
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theseldomscene
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| you are doing a fine job of it sir... |
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knuckle
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Hi Brother Silver--------
The why of it has not been questioned and I agree with the Cap'n you do a fine job.In fact seeing your motive sir might I add thank you and I love you for your concern for my eternal well being.
much love-----------knuckle |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| SS wrote: | | I'm trying to save your lives !!! |
Should we call you Christ Jesus then?
My bible tells me that Jesus came, lived, died and was resurrected to save my life. It tells me that we are called to Him, by Him, and I do not see any scripture which indicates that you have the power or authority to 'save my life' or even try to.
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