Shifting demographics

Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1505

Interesting article here about shifting demographics in the US...

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010045

In short, Americans are leaving the coasts (San Fran, LA, NY, Boston) and the northern industrial cities (Detroit, Chicago) for the south (San Antonio, Atlanta) and mid-west (Memphis, Kansas City)...

Those areas tend to be more a) religious and b) conservative...

Who is moving into the old coastal cities? Immigrants (mainly latinos)....

I mention it because it's going to effect politics over the next 5-10 years. The Dhimms are potentially loosing thier base...the old (1950s) southern Democrats don't see that party representing their values (which were generally "conservative" in personal dealings (anti-abortion, pro-marriage) and "liberal" in general social trends - farm aid, public education, subsidized housing....

May also explain why the Dhims have been so pro-immigrant (legal or otherwise)....

Anyway...interesting.
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45degreeN · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:46 am Post subject:

The purpose of representation is that they actually represent the people back home, not some artifical ideal. If most of the people back home are Hispanic then the representative (to be a good representative)must follow their issues and help them out.

We white guys are already in the minority. So get used to the idea that this country will not be representative of our point of view. If we, as a minority, insist upon ruling this country then we either must allow for greater diversity or become a dictatorship (like it seems to be becoming, re: the imperial presidency). We can shred the constitution and disregard the other minorites set up a new Nazi state, and forget all about those ideals.

Or we can relax and allow for changes trusting that by honoring the constitution we will all benefit, thanks to those founding fathers brilliant plan.
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FFT · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:49 am Post subject:

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Ana · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:30 am Post subject:

...and why does it matter what colour people are? Why does a representative have to represent people's skin colour? Why does it matter which colour of skin appears less frequently than which others in your country? Why does diversity have to equate with colour? #Real Confused

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45degreeN · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:

Ana it is not the skin color that matters but the cultural diversity that does.

To make out the various subcultures here in America to be the same is incorrect, each has a distinctive set of values. To represent a district one needs to express those values or move on to some other district. If we think of America as a melting pot then each flavor must be tasted and not merged into the same old bland taste

No, one doesn't need to be from that minority but the chance that a white, for instance, can legitimately express those values of the blacks or hispanics they must have studied real hard(not impossible but difficult). Whereas one from those other minorities can just grow up into them.
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Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1505

Interesting little story...one of the Reps to Congress from Tennassee was the "victim" of gerrymandering...as a result, the demographic profile of his constituancy became majority black...he asked join the Congressional Black Caucus...a group of black Congressmen that get together to push "black" issues....guess what happened?

They didn't let him in Shocked

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45degreeN · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

Well, Pondering, one doesn't have to join the blacks in their own caucaus to know what their issues are and to know how to best represent them. Plenty of information to read for that study time to be fillled up.

The caucaus is a "SafeZone" for those who are black to be free to speak their minds amongst their own. After, much study and well documented representing of black's issues, one might feel better about it.

Was the district he represented gerrymandered for Him as a Rep before and now it is more realistic? Sounds like it might be, he should have done his homework long ago now it maybe too late.
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Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1505

OK..first of all..no idea why it was gerrymandered...it was...he ran for office and was elected, receiving the majority of votes from all constituents black, white, orange, pink, whatever...but the majority of those constituents were black...he sought to join the Congressional Black Caucus so he could be part of the "inner" Congressional movement that states that it pushes black issue in a bipartisan manner....since he voters were predominately black, he thought he could best represent them there....

but OK...make it the white guy's fault.

My point is, if I were to form a White, Red headed, Left handed Hetersexual caucus, I'd get hit with the "racist" bat for excluding anyone....the shoe doesn't fit so well on the other foot though....and sentiments like "to be free to speak their minds amongst their own" ONLY highlights the difference instead of focusing on what unites us all..namely our humanity Rolling Eyes

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Ana · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

45degreeN · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:40 am Post subject:

Pondering wrote:

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Once again, Pondering is entirely correct.

I wonder why the ACLU hasn't filed a lawsuit against the black caucus for discrimination?

Oh yeah, I forgot... the ACLU only sues white people and corporations (unless those corporations are 'minority' owned....)
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