KEEP ABORTION LEGAL

dramatic_n_comedic_lynn · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

I think she's trying to say that a fetus cannot feel pain until the cerebal cortex is formed in the brain. That's the function of the brain where pain is registered from nerve endings throughout the body.

It forms sometime in the second trimester, I think.

oxalex · Not So Newbie Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 6

i dont think that the true issue lies within these zygotes or embry whatevers because quite frankly there's no difference between a fetus and a mature adult. you and i can both agree that there is no other species like human beings and the theory that we evolved from apes is completely obsurd but i'm sure there's another debate forum for that subject, but anyways, i dont know about you but MY God says that he knew me BEFORE i was even conceived or even thought of being conceived and He has my life completely planned out. if you choose to base your beliefs on the names scientists try to put on an inexplainable species then so be it, but my God is bigger than that and honestly i'll have to keep you in my prayers that God would build your faith in knowing that He loves us beyond reason. For God to neglect giving me a soul in the trimester or whatever as you say then how could He be big enough to do any of the other huge and amazing things that He has and is doing? i think that this use of scientific terms and throwing around the fact that roaches and tulip bulbs are alive too is completely kookoo. when you get the spare time, ask those tulip bulbs of yours to fall in love or to repent of their sins. please tell me what they say.

P1234567890 · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject:

oxalex · Not So Newbie Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 6

you're right. you can't "prove" that fetuses have a soul. you can't even "prove" that mature adults have a soul. does that mean that we don't have souls??

i'm going to completely disregard all you said about the primate thing because obviously our views are opposite and that's a different debate forum.

i want to ask you something, though. when you were a child, i'm sure your mother didn't ever have to tell you that it's wrong to visciously kill another human being (no regard to abortion because i don't think abortion falls under the viscious category) nonethe less you knew it was wrong. i believe that God places in us basic morals and He gives us the Holy Spirit to enstill these morals and principals and i don't think abortion would be an issue if some of us "pro-lifers" were led to think otherwise not only by our morals, but by the Holy Spirit as well.

P1234567890 · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:11 am Post subject:

Praying4U · Newbie Alert Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 3

Question... when did Jesus become both God and man?

Was it when he was born?

Or was it when the Holy Spirit of almighty God decended apon Mary?

Would we as "christains" abort the "fetus" of almighty God?

I think at the moment of conception, when the angel came to mary is when he became both God and man!

As it was the son of man was in the womb. The lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world! It was not the "fetus of man", or the "fetus" of God which takes away the sins of the world."

Oh dear friend, how awfull that would that have been for Mary and Joseph to say, "well.... it's only a "fetus" let's abort "it" to save you the death penalty for being pregnant out of marrage."

Doing so would have been the end of hope! The messiah would have never died for you and me.

There is great rejoycing in heaven for every sinner saved. It pleases God when people are saved! If the "fetus" of Jesus were aborted none would be saved. But what about your child or that child or that "fetus". Your child or that child or that "fetus", may have grown up to know the LORD and save souls! And that is pleasing to our father.

Jesus was never only a fetus. From eternity past to eternity future, he is the son of God. And all of us even the ones that don't believe are his children.

We need to celibrate life, our life in christ and everybody's opportunity to share that life!

PRAISE GOD FOR LIFE IT'S WONDERFULL!

P1234567890 · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:09 am Post subject:

Are you saying that since Jesus was never 'just a fetus', we can safely conclude that nobody is ever 'just a fetus'?

That doesn't follow.

I don't see why you guys place so much value on embryos. They really just are little blobs. If they are aborted or miscarried (and a huge percentage of pregnancies end in miscarriages that the mother isn't even aware of), it's really no big deal. The mother can easily get pregnant again if she wants with a different baby that would never have existed if the first pregnancy would have survived.

And then there's the whole issue of women's rights, and all of the social benefits of allowing abortions.

How can you guys just TOTALLY IGNORE all of these important variables???

Praying4U · Newbie Alert Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 3

sorry

Praying4U · Newbie Alert Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 3

What doesn't follow?

Jesus had just as much right to live as you and I do. And to say that this "fetus" doesn't deserve to live is playing God! God is the creator and the sustainer of all life. God is behind every life, without God there would be no fetus! Therefore the BABY is human, God ordained that fetus to be created just as God ordaines a stars creation. Man didn't create it, and he has no right to destroy it! The funny thing is if man could find a way to destroy a star he would, and for no other reason than the fact that he could! We would find some kind of scientific way to justifiy it, just as we find ways to justify murdering people. Hitler did just that and he had his justification in evolution. He beleived Jews were an inferrior race, just as some believe "fetuses" are only tissue.

As for women's rights. Women have the God ordained right to bear children. Men can't share this blessing. Women have an unbreakable bond with there children. And statistics show that most women who have had an abortion become depressed and feel remorse for there murder, and rightly so! I don't stand for making people feel guilty but thats what happens when you kill a HUMAN. Ask a veteran.

Adam was formed out of the earth and was not man until God breathed into his nostrils. God breathes life he is life and he should take life not man!

I don't see social benefits to murder. On the other hand some have and include Hitler, Stalin, American settlers and anyone who can THINK of a person as less than what they are! The only people benefiting are those making money off of other peoples irresponsibility. People think that the Baby would be better off dead. But God has a far greater plan for every single one of us!

Ist's easy to TOTALLY IGNORE unimportant variables, when you understand the value of HUMAN LIFE, and the lies of satan.

FFT · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:50 am Post subject:

P1234567890 · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:36 am Post subject:

Fantastic post, FFT. I especially like the picture; that's a powerful point. The ironic thing is that you can't rule out the ones with tails because human embryos have tails!

Praying4U, you have some answering to do...