Why Christianity today is divided

lone-traveler · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject:

HA!
Looks like it came through
the flood fairly well...LOL

I'm not anyone Colter.
Just a wanderer in this
awesome world of ours.
Filled with so much cool
stuff it's hard to put it
all in a nutshell.
I was born Catholic,
at 17ish I was Baptised
in the Southern Baptist church.
Attended off and on for a couple years.
Checked out some other local
churches to see what they were all about,
until one told me I had to sign
to become a member.
I didn't know God was taking
signatures..I thought it was hearts..
Anywho, got out of the church scene.
Never really was in it all that
much anyways.
Just picked up the bible now and
again because I always loved
prophecies and riddles and puzzles.
Then I just got real mad about
the way things were going in the world,
so I asked God to just help me
understand why things are the way they are.
This was the first forum I had ever been to.
And I came in under the law. All the physical
attributes had to be done because that's
what God said. After awhile I met others who
lifted my thoughts up to the spiritual realm
of thinking. I found new insights
by doing word searches and comparing
stories with other stories, just to
find out they're all the same story told
over again and again.
That's when it hit me.
History truly does repeat itself.
It's got to be a law like gravity or
something because things just keep
happening only different names
and faces and places.
But then I got to the point
where it was all spiritual no physical
and it just wasn't balancing right.
So I figured there's got to be a center line.
Like walking in the firmament
between heaven and earth.
That's where I am. Walking a fine
line between heaven and hell..LOL.
My Philosophy....Keep the golden rule.
Love God, Love your neighbours,
Do unto others, and keep
God's commandments.
It's really all the same thing
when you get down to the
nitty gritty. Try to live peacably
among all as much as possible.
And never let your faith be moved.
Faith can move mountains,
but a mountain can never
crush my faith.. Very Happy

There is wisdom and knowledge
buried under every nook and cranny,
don't look a gift horse in the mouth
because you don't like the color
of the horse. Keep your mind open
to new things that God is
making aware to mankind.
Just because it doesn't agree
with "religion" doesn't mean it
doesn't agree with God.
All good things come from
heaven above,
and all things evil we create ourselves.
So if we stop creating things
with our hands, and admire
those things God has created
with his hands,
we'd be in much better shape.

That about sums up me
in a nutshell Colter..LOL

God Bless
lone
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Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

sandra3102 · Kitten Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 138

As long as people do not avoid the following taboo's, we can never find Pure Christianity as it was in the first century where Jesus Christ, the Shepherd, was leading His flock of "sheep" (chosen):

Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

And instead truly TRUST GOD like "babes":

1 Joh 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Mat 11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Peter, John, James, Paul and other Apostles were "babes" in the eyes of our Lord; so were they endowed with divine knowledge and wisdom.
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Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Hi Lone,

Thanks so much for sharing your story. The Internet phenomenon is so fascinating, I had already gleaned some of those insights about you from reading your posts, it's cool how we meet friends on the net and extrapolate personality from the inner life.

I admire your courage in launching out upon the high seas of discovery, seeking God of yourself, for yourself and finding him. I think Jesus taught unity but not necessarily uniformity. He liberated mankind from the yoke of institutionalized religion however man being so afraid of the unknown is forever tying to contain God in the dead words of doctrine.

The real revelation of God to man is in the lives that we live. The measure of our insight into the Father is by the love that we have for others.

It's late here and I'm tired, I'll catch up with you tomorrow.

Thanks again

Colter
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Nobby · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject:

Hi Colter, I don't believe I ever welcomed you to the group! I'm sorry, but maybe better late than never.
I've been enjoying your posts.

That brings me to this thread! Your picture was stretching the page very wide.
I edited & changed it from an Img to a URL it's under The Ark.

lone-traveler · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject:

I just thought of something.. Idea

oh oh..

when Jesus sent the disciples out two by two to tell the people to repent and be baptised, I don't remember him telling them to bring them back here so we can have a party.. Confused or disgusted

When the Apostles were going from house to house to break bread, they didn't all come together in one place, but the shepherds visited the flock rather than the flock all being in one place at one time.

ok pulling verses out of context..ready? here we go.. Rolling Eyes

Isa 5:8 Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

Luk 10:7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.

Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Act 20:20 [And] how I kept back nothing that was profitable [unto you], but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Ti 5:13 And withal they learn [to be] idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

So what part of "Go not from house to house" as stated in Luke are we not hearing in acts and timothy??

this is one of those treasure hunts..LOL..

If we are to preach the gospel to every creature, then if we don't go from house to house we might miss somebody... Confused or disgusted

So what's the moral of that story?

Very Happy

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Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

Nobby · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:24 am Post subject:

Colter, that's really something! It looks so real! Very Happy

Thanks for sharing...
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lone-traveler · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:36 am Post subject:

Colter · Rabid Pit Bull Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 409

sandra3102 · Kitten Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 138

I hope God would help us "untangle this religious knot" reconciling the differences of Christian sects and denominations on doctrines of salvation and spiritual perfection.
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TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2132

sandra3102,

Hi, Very Happy

Regarding these different "sects"

Matt 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is actually a Christian, or even acknowledged by Jesus as his own. Jesus calls such false Christians "workers of lawlessness"! We must follow the Bible in all aspects of our lives. If we do so we will know and do what his Fathers will is, thus we will truly belong to Jesus.

Later. Very Happy

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sandra3102 · Kitten Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 138

This is what “is written” as inspired word of God:

God is speaking in parables:

• Eze 20:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?

Jesus Christ was prophesied to speak parables and dark sayings of old:

• Psa 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

“Man and woman/women” literally written must be a “parable or dark sayings of old” in the language of God. Thus, God does not recognize PHYSICAL gender in:

• Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Very clearly in the “language of God,” God is the “MAN” in the following being the HUSBAND:

• Isa 54:5 For thy MAKER is thine HUSBAND; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

If God is the SPIRITUAL husband, then His chosen BOTH MALE AND FEMALE are His SPIRITUAL wife or "WOMEN"! Then, “woman” in the following must be the PEOPLE!

• 1 Tim 2:11 Let the WOMAN learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a WOMAN to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Something to think about:

Because the PEOPLE are the spiritual WOMEN, they take the place of God, the MAN supposed to “teach” (reveal) the TRUTH in His words. As a result, Christianity is divided into sects and denominations, and each claims the “truth.”

This is clearly demonstrated during the time of CHRIST, where the Jews like the Christians today are in the same spiritual state.
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RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA

Sandra, you've made this same post at least three times now.

Repetitive posts are not necessary, please stop.
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sandra3102 · Kitten Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 138

Alright Rev. JV. How could Christianity today be united on the TRUTH when the HOLY BIBLE is the sole basis for doctrines? I suppose the cause (culprit) is in the INTERPRETATION where the condemned HUMAN WISDOM takes the place of DIVINE REVELATION as Simon Peter clearly recognized JESUS:

• Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

• Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

• Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.

All Christian sects and denominations preach this. But did it really come from the “revelation of the Father” that to know JESUS already exempt from the following rebuke?

• Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: IF YE HAD KNOWN ME, YE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO.

What do we hear from the “fathers of the church,” theologians, and Bible scholars, and preachers?

“THE INFINITE FATHER GOD IS INCAPABLE OF CLEAR IDENTIFICATION WITH THE FINITE MIND OF MAN.”
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