Trinitarians wake up!

Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 153

Aramaic, Greek and Latin may have been spoken in Jerusalem in Jesus' day, because it was a large city and many came to buy and sell, but I thought we were taking about the man Jesus and His Apostles. Jesus never lived in Jerusalem, He came from a very small Jewish village named Nazareth. So, those around Him would have spoken Aramaic since that was the language of all Semetic tribes in the area. If you wish to discuss Pagen countries and their language, I could see your point, but we are talking about a Jew not a Pagen.

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

Rocket, I thought the question was which language were the scriptures written in?

mag_dala55 · Tadpole Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 26

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Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

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JP, what a timely quotation of Psa. 118:8 in discussing the Trinity doctrine.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

If only we follow this God's advice, then His IDENTITY would not have elluded us. As it is, "many" people just ignore our Lord's very sharp rebuke:

Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

How many people profess to know Jesus, and at the same time declaring Father God is a mystery?

mag_dala55 · Tadpole Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 26

RevJP,

Are we not "touching" the following taboo's?

Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

No wonder there are many things remaining unanswered regarding the word of God, foremost, His identity.

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

I'm sorry mag, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Can you be bit less cryptic perhaps?

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Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 153

I brought up the subject of there being an original Aramaic Bible in Syria , given to them by the Apostles and kept by the Catholic church of the East. There were those who disagreed and claimed Jesus spoke Greek? I don't think so. The original version of the Bible was written in Aramaic the language of Jesus and His Apostles. It was later copied into severial other languages.

mag_dala55 · Tadpole Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 26

Rocket,

The way I see it, the Bible may be written in any language and translated in different dialects. As long as there are not material deductions and additions, God will not allow His chosen to be distracted by these aberrations. Example:

In MANY Bible versions we read the following. Note the question mark (?) at the end of the verse, perhaps the translators are thinking it is impossible for God to make these possible to literal children “weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.”

Isa 28:9 "Who is it he is trying to teach? To whom is he explaining his message? TO CHILDREN WEANED FROM THEIR MILK, TO THOSE JUST TAKEN FROM THE BREAST?

In ALL Bible versions we read the following:

Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and HAST REVEALED THEM UNTO BABES.

2 Tim 3:15 And that FROM A CHILD thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

To a discerning reader, there is a big contradiction! Therefore, it is necessary to “verify with other versions.” Thus we find in the following:

The Bishops Bible and KJV:

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? THEM THAT ARE WEANED FROM THE MILK, AND DRAWN FROM THE BREASTS.

Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and HAST REVEALED THEM UNTO BABES.

2 Tim 3:15 And that FROM A CHILD thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Very clearly MANY versions do not take Isa 28:9 correctly and therefore they are to be disregard on this particular point, and instead follow the Bishops Bible and KJV.

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

Sorry mag, I don't see the point, nor do I see where you've poked holes in anything. I suppose one could post any verse they wanted to and state that it denounces some doctrine, that simply would fly for most scripturally literate people though...

"Jesus wept." There, that pokes holes in any doctrine that asserts we should be joyful....

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Rocket · House Cat Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 153

Aramaic pershitta is in Syria. Thank you for your Url, I have two sites for this Bible that I enjoy. Both have it in aramaic with English on top of the Aramaic script. There are many version or translations on line, I have read most of them. www.Pershitta.org