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knuckle
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 Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: Consoling someone from guilt |
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Hi All------
I have a friend who is a police officer---night before last he had to draw his weapon and kill a man.My friend fired four shots one struck the perps hand and knocked away the gun two of the other shots were fatal.
Because it happens fast my friend doesn't know which shot hit first but in his grieving he has more or less convinced himself that the hand shot was and now he is really feeling guilty.
how does one console another in a situation like this?
any help would be appreciated.
much love--------knuckle |
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Helper
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Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Greetings Knuckel,
You have brought a tuff situation to us this time.
My hope is that your friend is a Christian, because inner peace comes from our Father.
I’m glad you are a friend to the police officer; here is where time spent with him is so important.
Authority is given to governments by our Father God. Remember the Ten Commandments are written for relationships were the level of authority is the same.
Your friend, as a police officer has been given authority over the lives of people in lawful situations.
I’m sorry for his pain, but I’m grateful he aspired to such a noble occupation, so as to protect us in some ways from evil.
May God bless him and you.
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lone-traveler
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Hi knuckle,
I wish we lived in a world where there was no violence.
But it is what it is.
And sometimes that rule of he who kills with the sword will be killed by the sword..must be applied.
Not because we want it to be like that, just because it is.
There are many people who lay their own lives on the line to protect the innocent people from being attacked by ravening wolves.
If it weren't for justice where would we be?
Policemen take oaths to uphold the law, to defend the defenseless, and to protect our freedoms by being walked all over by criminals.
I don't know the situation of what took place or how it "went down".. but apparently someone was doing something they shouldn't have been doing, and justice was called in, this is the result of that.
I'm sorry your friend is feeling guilty for doing something he was trained to do, which is to protect us. And even though sometimes things are hard to accept, in the long run he may have saved more lives than the one that was taken.
Sometimes the punishment truly does fit the crime.
I'm not a lawyer and I'm not a judge, and I haven't heard the case.
All I can say is I respect the police and I honour them for putting their lives in danger for our own. And without them we'd be living in fear always from those who break the law. And I wish your friend Peace in his heart and mind from our Lord in the burden his is carrying now.
God Bless knuckle
Lone
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theseldomscene
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hello kuckle..
it is hard for me to advise someone having never been placed in such a situation myself...but if the situation took place as you have described...
i think the fact that he struggles with it...is in fact what makes him so worthy of being a police officer and i think that is the type of man and men and women we need out there on the streets enforcing the law...such an examination of ones actions and doubts that call for closer examination under heavy anxiety...
that sir...is an honorable man who is much needed...
i'll pray for your friend... |
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pastor2022
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I echo seldom here. I will pray for him and for you as you seek to be his friend and help him. I would suggest he get the counseling available through the PD if they offer it. Most PDs do. Prayers for you both.
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knuckle
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi All-------
Thankyou for the advice and prayers.My friend is coming to terms with it now and will probably be back on patrol next week.
much love---------knuckle |
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atoz
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Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Consoling someone from guilt |
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| knuckle wrote: | Hi All------
I have a friend who is a police officer---night before last he had to draw his weapon and kill a man.My friend fired four shots one struck the perps hand and knocked away the gun two of the other shots were fatal.
Because it happens fast my friend doesn't know which shot hit first but in his grieving he has more or less convinced himself that the hand shot was and now he is really feeling guilty.
how does one console another in a situation like this?
any help would be appreciated.
much love--------knuckle |
Hi Knuckle,
Hope your friend is way on the way to recovery by now.
My few cents:
He feels guilty because he is: he is guilty of hating himself as guilty: so he triply guilty: guilty of maybe killing that perp and of Hate of himself as a killer and as guilty.
So he has to love himself as guilty to repent of and wash away the sin and guilt of Hate for himself as guilty which Hate for himself as guilty led him to also hate the guilty perp and so kill him with Hate which is also murder in God's sight no matter what USA law says.
Joshua 20:5
5And if the avenger of blood pursue after him, then they shall not deliver the slayer up into his hand;
because he smote his neighbour unwittingly, and hated him not beforetime.
Numbers 35:
15These six cities shall be a refuge, both for the children of Israel, and for the stranger, and for the sojourner among them:
that every one that killeth any person unawares may flee thither.
16And if he smite him IN HATE with an instrument of iron, so that he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.
17And if he smite him IN HATE with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.
18Or if he smite him IN HATE with an hand weapon of wood, wherewith he may die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.
19The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.
20But if he THE AVENGER thrust him of hatred, or hurl at him by laying of wait IN HATE, that he die;
21Or in enmity IN HATE smite him with his hand, that he die: he that smote him IN HATE shall surely be put to death; for he is a murderer: the revenger of blood shall slay the murderer, when he meeteth him.
22But if he thrust him suddenly without enmity IN HATE, or have cast upon him any thing without laying of wait,
23Or with any stone, wherewith a man may die, seeing him not, and cast it upon him, that he die, and was not his enemy, neither sought his harm:
So all he has to then do is love himself as guilty AND AS INNOCENT so that all his love is pure and innocent, and so that all he will then be guilty of is LOVE IN THE FIRST DEGREE,
love that perp, admit he killed him in hate when he shd have killed him in Love, then shed some tears in Love for the guy he killed and for his family as God shed tears for his son and himself and his family, and he will feel better.
in Love and r,
atoz |
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