Iraq Resolution

Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

What is our Senate thinking about?

HERE we have an article over our new commander's testimony:

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7003 Location: USA

Complete agreement.
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Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

Petraeus is also A-political. He doesn't even vote if I'm not mistaken. He knows this that anything you do or say to embolden our enemy is going to hurt our troops... and their morale.

Like telling them "this surge can't work. Have a nice trip"
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Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

The silence is deafening!
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theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

what do you want them to say... Laughing

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theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

i had a dream once that JESUS took me to the edge of what looked like eternity...it was a cliff that looked out over all creation...the earth was very visible...war, death, famine, pestilence,explosions of great magnitude were going on everywhere on our planet...

JESUS looked at me and said...'you will cause this'...

i protested...LORD i will never...YOU said thy shall not kill...and to love one another....i will die before i cause such a thing...and i am not in a position to cause this...i am a nobody ...this can't be LORD...i could not cause this....

he said smiling...oh yes you will....you will speak into being...

so tri...call me a nutcase...but i ain't saying nothing... Confused or disgusted

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Trinity1 · Emperor of the World Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 3123

45degreeN · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Fall of Saigon/Baghdad

I look to the fall of Saigon as the scenario for our troops pulling out of Iraq. No matter how you slice it, the failure of our time in Vietnam lead to much pain and confusion after our leaving and the fall of the regime that was there to take over. The hate between us spilled over to many other areas and it was a bitter pill to swallow.

However, we now have normalized relationship with Vietnam and a healthy respect on both sides. The way Vietnam is run now it is better off now than when were there. In spite of the fact that they don't have the worlds fourth largest oil reserves Vietnam is a busy and prosperous country and getting better every year.

It is possible for the Muslims to get over our meddling in their country much like the Vietnamese. Islam itself is not represented by the radicals but by the millions of moderates who just want to return to their normal daily lives and cant yet because of our presence there. Prosperity will return given their oil rich resources and their determination to restore order. Respect might take a little longer but it will return also.

The old domino theory was just a bunch of baloney during the Vietnam era and the theories that fill our current president's head are just new versions of that same old sounding gong. Like the tag line on the old movie "Wargames" the only way to win is not to play the game.

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Pondering · King of the Jungle Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1509

Absolutely not...

For some reason our own Congress doesn't understand their Constitution. We do NOT have a parlimentary system, where the members of parliment can call for a "vote of no confidence" in the parliment's leadership...In a parliment, the majority party forms the executive branch and chooses it's Prime Minister (or chief executive)....We have a representative democracy with separate but co-equal branches...

If Congress feels so strongly about what the President is doing, they have the power to cut off funding. But they will also bear the responsibility for that action. What they're trying to do is cut the money and have Bush take the blame....given today's media environment, they'll probably succeed at both since our country is about as ignorant as it was in the 1800s. We have more people going to school today, but less people educated.

We spend time on Cultural Awareness and Sensitivity, but don't teach basic Civics in school anymore Rolling Eyes

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45degreeN · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject:

Hey TSS: the civil war in Lebanon is still going on, it has taken brief breaks but it is still there as of yesterday.

Re: Iraq- the success or failure of the current "surge" is up to the Iraqis themselves. The first two times we tried this same tactic it failed due to the resistance of the Iraqi government to allow a clearing of Sadr city. Mr. Sadr is still a major contributor to the Al Maliki government and if Sadr city is cleared of insurgents what will he (Mr. Sadr) do to the government afterward?

It is not for lack of troops that the Iraqi government hasn't done this already, it is due to the lack of will. The political risk outweighs the military risk.

If the Iraqi military does it's part this time then they should get the credit for success, not the "surge". They would be the ones who took the biggest risk and get the positive results. All I see from this escalation is more casualties.

This resolution will ultimately have negliable effect on anything except the egos of the people in congress and their electability.

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