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RevJP
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| I wouldn't know, I never thought it was any less normal than anything else. |
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admin
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | I wouldn't know, I never thought it was any less normal than anything else. |
That's good, but that makes you a pretty progressive and liberal Christian living in American. In my experience most religious people consider homosexuality to be an 'unnatural perversion'. |
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admin
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P1234567890
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Good post, Admin. I found your account of how homophobic UNIVERSITY students 'gay-bashed' you even though you aren't homosexual! If university students, who are supposed to be open-minded and seeking intellectual enlightenment can do that, then does any human action (no matter how heinous) surprise you at all?
Gay-bashing is hate, plain and simple. It is not something that Christians should ever engage in. It should be clear to anybody who believes in Satan that hate is his purview.
I would argue that eligious intolerance (eg. the crusade against Islam) is another form of hate that goes directly against Jesus' teachings. |
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TRINIty7806
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Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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Location: BROOKLYN, NEW YORK
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I have not read all the responses in regards to homosexuality, however I believe that homosexuality is a sin. Now when God created the earth he created Adam and Eve (Man & Woman) our sole purpose here was to praise God and be fruitful and multiply. Now how can homosexuals be fruitful and multiply, simple they can't. I am not one to judge because I sin and fall short of the glory of God everyday. My christian friends really reflect back and think to yourselves why did God destroy Sodom and Gommarah, when you have found your answer let me know and then I will tell you my interpretation of that particular scripture.
God Bless You All.... |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| TRINIty7806 wrote: | | I have not read all the responses in regards to homosexuality, however I believe that homosexuality is a sin. Now when God created the earth he created Adam and Eve (Man & Woman) our sole purpose here was to praise God and be fruitful and multiply. Now how can homosexuals be fruitful and multiply, simple they can't. |
It doesn't matter. Mankind has already gone forth and multiplied. Mission accomplished; the Earth is now totally overpopulated. Therefore we can stop multiplying now, and it's perfectly fine that homosexuals don't add to the Earth's overpopulation. |
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FFT
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| TRINITy7806 wrote: | | I have not read all the responses in regards to homosexuality, however I believe that homosexuality is a sin. |
Okay, you didn't have to read any of the responses — just the link behind the first post — to be disabused of that notion.
| TRINITy7806 wrote: | | Now when God created the earth he created Adam and Eve (Man & Woman) our sole purpose here was to praise God and be fruitful and multiply. Now how can homosexuals be fruitful and multiply, simple they can't. |
1. Adam and Eve were never commanded to multiply.
2. Homosexuals were never commanded to multiply.
3. Even if God wanted Adam and Eve to multiply, homosexuals aren't Adam or Eve, either.
| TRINITy7806 wrote: | | My christian friends really reflect back and think to yourselves why did God destroy Sodom and Gommarah, when you have found your answer let me know and then I will tell you my interpretation of that particular scripture. |
The people of those cities were so blatantly evil God felt he had to do something about it, to the point that they desired to rape or otherwise harm (note that, this is important) messengers from God.
Last I checked, there are plenty of gay people that don't go around raping people. Funny, maybe the story of Sodom doesn't really apply to them? |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| TRINITy wrote: | I have not read all the responses in regards to homosexuality, however I believe that homosexuality is a sin.
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| FFT wrote: | | Okay, you didn't have to read any of the responses — just the link behind the first post — to be disabused of that notion. |
Actually, if you are interested in what scripture has to say about homosexuality, without all the gymnastics presented by those who would choose to alter the meaning of God's Holy Inspired Word, then I would suggest you ignore FFT's post and read this one:
Questions on Homosexuality
Either way, you will be enlightened as to the error of your assertions. |
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Ana
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| Or, you can read both, research some more, and decide for yourself, free from bias. |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Ana wrote: | | Or, you can read both, research some more, and decide for yourself, free from bias. |
Or, failing that, you can read both, research some more, and decide for yourself.  |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Now now Ana... where would discussion go if one did not have bias? |
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Ana
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Precisely, RevJP! You have to listen to all sorts of bias so you can try to discern the whole picture for yourself!  |
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allan0201
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Joined: 13 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: It looks like you said you are an Atheist. |
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| Fake wrote: | The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals...
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision.
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If you know so much about the Bible, why are you still an Athiest? |
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allan0201
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Joined: 13 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: Homosexuality is Homosexuality |
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| Quote: | P1234567890
Emperor of the World
There is an important difference between homosexuality during Roman times and homosexuality today. Back then, heterosexuals would engage in homosexual sex. Today, it is virtually only homosexuals who engage in homosexual sex. This is a very important difference. One can argue that the prior is condemned by the Bible, but that the latter is not |
Anal sex is anal sex. Men with men. Men with women. there's everything today. The bottom line is, people just want to justify their sin. Most people dont read the bible if they are not ready to get saved, but some of you just like arguing about religion. I don't know why. You're only deceiving yourself, not anybody else. Most of you atheists cant figure out whether you believe in God or not. If God doesn't exist, then why are you waisting your time reading the Bible and arguing about it. If Christians are stupid for believing in Jesus, then let them be stupid. Leave them alone. If you are better than Christians or smarter than them, why would you waist your time talking to them. It's not like theirs a reward for how many people you deceive unless you count hell as reward.
| Quote: | | 18Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Corinthians 3:18 |
You can't decieve me. I'm just trying to save those who can be saved.
P1234567890
| Quote: | | We know that genetically, only about ten percent of the population is born homosexual. |
No one is born homosexual. There is nothing in this world that can convince that it is true, because scientist are of the wrold and they are probably just lying about things. It's that simple, because that's what most people do. They go and find some research that some dishonest scientist did, and use to support their beliefs. I have a college degree too, but it doesn't equal the knowledge of the Bible or God. Degrees mean nothing to me. Only the Bible does.
P1234567890
| Quote: | | This is false. Homosexuality is widespread throughout nature. It has been observed and documented in literally hundreds of different species. In that sense, it is perfectly natural. |
Even if animals do act like homosexuals, it doesn't mean it's normal. And why would humans want to act like animals?
P1234567890
| Quote: | | But if the number of gays is much greater than 5%, doesn't that mean that homosexuality is even more 'normal' than anyone ever thought? |
Just because there are more people doing it, doesn't make it any more normal. It's still a sin.
P1234567890
| Quote: | | Last I checked, there are plenty of gay people that don't go around raping people. Funny, maybe the story of Sodom doesn't really apply to them? |
There are homosexuals raping people today. Just trust my word.
FFT
| Quote: | | Adam and Eve were never commanded to multiply. |
Either you haven't read the Bible or you are just lying.
leecappella
| Quote: | | Homosexuality was indeed a part of these doings. It is abomination. It is morally disgusting. It is an abhorrent thing. IT IS IDOLATRY! But it is not the homosexuality that we address in today’s world. |
You can deceive yourself if you want to. Nobody understands what you are talking about anyway, so you are not sending anybody else to hell but yourself. I"m not a fool.
Here is a link to my page about homosexuality if you want to read it.
http://www.geocities.com/dalan0201/homosexuality.html |
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