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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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amos4:4-13 come to bethel(house of GOD), and transgress, at gilgal(circle, role) multiply your transgresions and bring your sacrifices every morning and your tithes every three years. and offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving with leaven and proclaim and publish the free offerings: for this is like you, o ye children of israel, saith the LORD GOD.
| Quote: | | Eze 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them | ..
and I have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities and want of bread in all your places, yet you have not returned to ME saith the LORD.
| Quote: | | Eze 22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. |
and also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest:
| Quote: | | Zec 14:17 And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. |
and I caused it not to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered.
| Quote: | | Eze 22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou [art] the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation. |
so two or three cities wandered unto one city, to drink water; but they were not satisfied: yet have ye not returned to ME saith the LORD.
| Quote: | | Eze 22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered [morter], seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken. |
I have smitten you with blasting and mildew: | Quote: | Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Mal 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD **hath indignation for ever.**
when your gardens and your vineyards and your fig trees and your olive trees increased, the palmerworm devoured them: yet have ye not returned to ME, saith the LORD. |
| Quote: | | Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that [have] no [rain]; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. |
I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of egypt: your
young men have I slain with the sword,
| Quote: | Psa 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them].
Isa 13:5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even] the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land. |
and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto ME, saith the LORD. I have overthrown "some of you", as sodom and gomorah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto ME, saith the LORD. | Quote: | | Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; **lest at any time** they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. |
| Quote: | Mat 13:2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
Mat 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, ...........
Mat 13:10 ¶ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. |
therefore thus will I do unto thee o israel: and because I do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy GOD, o israel.
| Quote: | | Isa 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [thereof is] heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire: |
for lo, HE that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is HIS thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and threadeth upon the high places of the earth, the LORD, the GOD of hosts, is HIS name. |
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MoJo Moderator
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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very nicely done, tss.
Where should we take it from here? Hhmmmm.......
I've been reading acts (all sorts of new things popping up) and found this of interest;
Act 2:5 ¶ And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
This muddies the waters a bit, because Jews could also be........
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Just as Paul was also a Roman.
The scriptures say that the tents of Judah would be saved first, right? So what does Peter say..
Act 3:12 And when Peter saw [it], he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Act 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Act 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
And Paul
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, **and [then] to the Gentiles,** that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
I'm kinda seeing the tents of Judah as being the Jews. In every case, the first place Paul went when going into various cities was the synagogue. There were Jews and synagogues in all the nations.
Of interest is the story of Cornelius, showing that Gentiles had repented and been baptized by John's baptism. To me this shows the way being prepared, so that when Peter is called to Cornelius they are ready to receive the Holy Spirit. Many Gentiles could fall into this category and into "a preparation day".
I'm thinking this vision of Peter's in 41AD (???) may hold more spiritual significance than the physical destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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i have something to share...but am to tired tonight...maybe in the morrow or the next day LORD willing...good post sis...this is my favorite thread going ...GOD bless you...good stuff ... |
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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hey check out the blessing of dan by jacob/israel...
gen49:16-18 dan shall judge his people as one of the tribes of israel. dan shall be a serpent by the wa, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. i have waited for THY salvation o LORD.
like the seed of the serpent biting the heel of the seed of eve...remember dan is not among the 12 tribs in rev 7... |
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | like the seed of the serpent biting the heel of the seed of eve...remember dan is not among the 12 tribs in rev 7... |
I'm thinking there's something more to this..........
Dan means judging. Now why is Dan mentioned as having inheritance in Ezekial, but not mentioned in Rev. This is a mystery???
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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and HE spake a parable unto them to this end, that man ought always to pray, and not to faint. saying, there was in a city a judge, which feared not GOD, neither regarded man: and there was a widow in the city, and she came unto him, saying, avenge me of mine adversary. and he would not for a while, but afterward he said within himself, though i fear not GOD, nor regard man, yet because this widow troubleth me, i will avennge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
and the LORD said, hear what the unjust judge saith.lk.18:1=6 |
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: ?????????????????? |
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Tss & MoJo, are you thru with your "One-On-One" discussion?  |
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi nobby, not that I'm aware of. Is it a problem leaving it open? Does it have an expiry date ?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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tss, I reread the horse thread. What specific connection are you seeing between Dan and that thread? My husband thinks I can read his mind too. LOL!
I have some hypothetical theories concerning Dan being hidden. I also have some thoughts on who the black horses are, but you first. It's time you spilled your guts.
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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hi nobby...i would also like for us to be able to continue...we stop for a minute, but that i think is more so to get inspiration and direction ...
mojo...i am still working on dan and his blessing and his absence from the 12 tribes in the rev.....
let's continue forward and if we find anything new ...share it...  |
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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MoJo & Tss, Your more then welcome to continue. I enjoy your posts.
You hadn't posted for a while, I was hoping you weren't thru.
Love you both,
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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thanks nobby...
mojo,
i posted this in my thread in the rev forum, but it is mysterious in that only one yoke was slain and feed to the people. out of twelve. which one?...
1 kings19:19-21 so he departed thence, and found elisha the son of shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelveth: and elijah, passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him. and he left the oxen, and ran after elijah, and said, let me, i pray thee, kiss my father and my mother, and then i will follow thee.
and he said unto him, go back again: for what have i to do with thee? and he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and boiled their flesh with the instruments of the oxen, and gave unto the people, and they did eat.
then he arose, and went after elijah, and ministered unto him. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I read this in the Rev thread and wondered what you were getting at. It's not coming to me. Twelve **yoke** of oxen would be twenty-four oxen, wouldn't it - two to a yoke. That means two slain??
Yoked means not free - yoked under the law, I would imagine. Paul refers to himself as an ox not muzzled. Not getting the connection with the baskets of bread, though. What do you see?
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theseldomscene Banned
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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remember the 24 thread?...
oh yeah...the way it(1kings) applies in the rev forum is different then here...i have been trying to find what tribe elisha was from, but haven't as of yet....do you know?... |
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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On very quick glance, it looks like he might be descended from one of David's sons, but need to look closer. His father's name was Shaphat.
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