Book of Judith

Black Light · Tadpole Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 23

I also noticed that the Old Testament Book of Judith is missing from the forum. Any reason why?
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Nobby · Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 11:58 am Post subject: The Book of Judith.

Black Light,
The book of Judith, is not found in the KJV. on NKJ. It was never put in with the books. I think you will have to go back aways to find it! What bible do you have that has this book in it?
Nobby

Black Light · Tadpole Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 23

Hi Nobby.

The bible I'm using is the New American Bible, and that's where I found the book of Judith.

KJV = King James Version? I don't know what the NKJ is.
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Nobby · Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 7:41 pm Post subject: The Book of Judith.

Hi Black Light,
NKJ is the New King James.
I have ASV, American Standerd Version. But I haven't seen the New American Bible.
Nobby

Black Light · Tadpole Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 23

It's a revised Catholic edition. You should check it out.
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Captain Vegetable · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:38 am Post subject:

I use a New American Bible myself. It's great! Wink

Judith is a part of the Apocrypha, which has been removed from the majority of Protestant Bibles. The 1611 KJV does, in fact, include it, so Nobby is wrong on that point. It was taken out around 1700. Other books included in the Apocrypha are 1 & 2 Macabees, Wisdom, and Tobit, among others.

I feel it to be a grave error for these books to have been removed from the Bible in Protestant circles.

Nobby · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject: Judith

Hi Capt,
Your right we just talked about that awhile back!
They were discussing the Apocrypha and its books. Yes the
1611 KJV did contain Judith Exclamation

Thank you Capt. Wink

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admin · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject:

Nobby,
If you could list the books of the Apocrypha I'll open up a seperate forum section for those books.
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Captain Vegetable · Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 6:12 pm Post subject:

Books of the Apocrypha (as they appear inthe New American Bible):

Tobit
Judith
Wisdom
Sirach
Baruch
I Maccabees
II Maccabees

It is to be noted that these are all OT books. Wink

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Nobby · Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 6:56 pm Post subject: books of the Apocrypha

Thank you Captain Vegetable, Smile

Nobby

Captain Vegetable · Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 6:58 pm Post subject:

Larryjf has some more for you in the Catholic thread. Wink

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Nobby · Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 8:08 pm Post subject: books of the Apocrypha

Admin,
I'll get them for you, I believe there's 14 books. They're OT books.
nobby

PS: This list is from Larryjf & Captain Vegetable

Here are the apoc. books
1,2 ESDRAS
TOBIT
JUDITH
ADDITIONS TO ESTHER
WISDOM
ECCLESIASTICUS
BARUCH
LETTER OF JEREMIAH
PRAYER OF AZARIAH AND THE SONG OF THE 3 YOUNG MEN
SUZANNA
BEL AND THE DRAGON
THE PRAYER OF MANASSAH
1,2,3,4 MACABEES
PSALM 151

Ron · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:15 am Post subject:

Hi all,
I found this interesting. Why are these books not Canonical? Ungers Bible Dictionary give the following reasons for their exclusion:

"They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling ot of keeping with inspired Scripture. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling."

As Christianity is based on historical evidence for our faith, one cannot use questionable historical material in basing that faith. This would only weeken the Body of Christ.
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Captain Vegetable · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:42 am Post subject:

admin · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:23 am Post subject:

I'm going to move this to our new Apocrypha forums at the bottom of the site. Conversation can continue there.
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