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zadok17
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | zadok17 wrote: |
That's not judging people my friend. That's merely making an observation and calling it like I see it. Sometimes we take this thing about Judging out of context. After all if you wish to start a ball team wouldn't you have the players try out to see who are the best players. After all you want only the best players on this team don't you to increase your chances of winning? Then you have judged them, judged their skill level etc. Ain't nuthin wrong wit thet theah, LOL. |
This sounds like judging to me. Telling people that they don't understand the Bible as well as you do is tantamount to telling them that they are not as righteous as you are. And picking a ball team is DEFINITELY an example of judging. Or more accurately, it is an example of first judging someone's abilities, and then discriminating against them based on that judgment.
I can just imagine a parable about Jesus and the baseball game in the Bible. It would go something like this: the village gets together to have a ball game. Jesus is one of the captains. The other captain constantly picks the best players, whereas Jesus makes what are considered to be really strange picks. First he picks the old man who happens to be a good man. Next he picks the cripple, and so on. Then they play their game, and Jesus' team (called "Christ's Cowboys") gets totally thrashed. But by the end of it, the other team is the one who feels humiliated and their victory is totally hollow because all they did was beat a team of invalids. And then Jesus points out the lesson in all of this.
So to answer your question, if you were picking a ball team, then no, you might not pick all of the best players. |
Sweetheart, I am sorry if my pointing out the lack of understanding of God's word by some offends you but even PAUL did that on certain occassions. As did Christ. Would you like me to post some examples where Paul told some that they didn't understand scripture. That's not stated to be insulting but rather it should make the person buckle down and delve deeper intot Gods word especially if one can PROVE that another does not comprehend the written word. |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| zadok17 wrote: | | Sweetheart, I am sorry if my pointing out the lack of understanding of God's word by some offends you but even PAUL did that on certain occassions. As did Christ. Would you like me to post some examples where Paul told some that they didn't understand scripture. |
Are you saying that it is ok for you to tell people that they don't understand scripture because Paul did? Paul was taught by Jesus himself. What makes you think that you understand the Bible as well as Paul did? |
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zadok17
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think anyone living today understands the Bible as well as Paul did, after all, he did pen most of the New Testament. I never made that claim. I am a mere student of God's word! |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| zadok17 wrote: | | I don't think anyone living today understands the Bible as well as Paul did, after all, he did pen most of the New Testament. I never made that claim. I am a mere student of God's word! |
But you used Paul's criticism of others with respect to the Bible as justification for your own criticism of others...
How can you do this if by your own admission you don't know the Bible nearly as well as he did? |
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zadok17
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| P1234567890 wrote: | | zadok17 wrote: | | I don't think anyone living today understands the Bible as well as Paul did, after all, he did pen most of the New Testament. I never made that claim. I am a mere student of God's word! |
But you used Paul's criticism of others with respect to the Bible as justification for your own criticism of others...
How can you do this if by your own admission you don't know the Bible nearly as well as he did? |
Well there are those that know the Bible a bit better than others. Some, a lot better than others. |
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FFT
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| RevJP wrote: | | FFT wrote: | | The Body of Christ and God selected you to be a leader of His flock? When did that happen? |
Where did I say this? I very clearly stated: | Quote: | | Not to mention the act of placing oneself in a position where they feel justified or qualified to demean or 'tear down' those the Body of Christ and God has selected to be leaders of His flock... |
Heck, you even quoted it and still got it wrong. It is a shame, first you rightly correct me and then you blow your streak.... |
Hey, maybe my mistake. Who were you talking about, then? |
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P1234567890
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| zadok17 wrote: | | Well there are those that know the Bible a bit better than others. Some, a lot better than others. |
And how do you know that you're one of those people? |
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RevJP
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| FFT wrote: | | Hey, maybe my mistake. Who were you talking about, then? |
It was a generality based on observation, no one specific was actually in the forefront of my mind.
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First of all, I like to think that I don't demean or belittle the Christians here, but rather I challenge them. Do I or don't I try very hard to not insult people here personally? |
Don't be defensive my friend. I did not mention you did I? Are you feeling a little guilty?
| zadok wrote: | | Well there are those that know the Bible a bit better than others. Some, a lot better than others. |
You are absolutely correct, and it would do you well to actually listen to some of them. |
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P1234567890
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Don't be defensive my friend. I did not mention you did I? Are you feeling a little guilty?
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What makes you think that a blasphemous heathen atheist such as myself is even capable of feeling guilt? |
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ekspiulo
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| RevJP wrote: | | ...it would do you well to actually listen to some of them. |
It would do you well not to be so judgmental of others. That is god's job isn't it? Let each man interpret the scripture by his own lights. |
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RevJP
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| esk wrote: | | Let each man interpret the scripture by his own lights. |
I completely disagree. Scripture is to be interpreted by the wisdom and influence of the Holy Spirit, not by the 'lights' of man. God's Word was inspired by and must be interpreted by His Spirit. Man can't even seek Him much less understand His Word without the guidance of the Spirit. |
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John R Nolan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: cross dressing |
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| One Scripture in Deut. should b sufficient for any Christian to understand, there's nowhere in the N.T. where that concept was changed, is there? |
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45degreeN
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To get back to the thread: Those people who cross dress frequently act as though it was an addiction, something they cannot control and there is what is called the "purge cycle" where the cross dresser throws out all of their "forbidden clothes" and tries to go straight. 99.9+% of the time they cant and they go back to their old behavior. No doubt they feel shame and guilt but is this guilt Godly or just cultural. Shame from the Taboo or shame from the Holy Spirit telling them something.
There is only a very few examples anywhere of cross dressers ever giving it up for good and not going back to their old habits. Even if they manage for awhile (years even) the impulse is always there. |
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John R Nolan
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To be simple, straight forward and blunt; those who suffeer from such delusions are in need of a serious trip to the cross, if they call themselves Christians or to a psychiatrist if they are not
What they are doing is abnormal, otherwise everybody would be doing it
Homosexuals, transgendered, etc., although they may be fine people, very caring, etc. are also contrary to nature as GOD originally made it
There is no reference in Genesis of GOD making homosexuals, lesbians, transgendered, and such are all perversions, demonic bastardizations of what GOD originally created
A lie is TRUTH perverted, all sin is the original condition perverted, hybridized, cross dressed, as it were, and cannot be of GOD
Let's call a spade a spade, not a colourless replacement |
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45degreeN
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If, Mr. Nolan you are a Christian, then you are part of the Bride of Christ. How many men are there who claim to be brides?
You are the woman part of the "marriage of the Lamb" not the man part of that marriage. Christ is the man part and we cannot usurp that position. So since you are a woman in that marriage get to dressing like a woman sir! Prepare for the consummation of that wedding vow when Christ does it to us.
Or maybe you just don't want to get married to Christ, fine then but there is no other option to making it into heaven. |
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