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Dshadna
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Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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| Thomas Brodnicki wrote: | Feel free to ignore the Word of God and distort it at your own peril. The freedom is temporary. I have given you God's crystal clear positions on miscegenation and homosexuality. Your arguments stopped making sense long ago. Revelation 21:8
I strongly urge anyone examining this thread in the future to completely ignore anyone's opinion and prove the facts from your own Bible with a good concordance. |
To whomever may read this posts:
I urge you to read your Bible and study it well. Listen only to the Holy Spirit's directing, and not that of men.
The Holy Spirit may lead you to books or to websites, that can help to clarify the Truth of what the Holy Spirit, through Jesus Christ, through God, is directing to you for you own life.
Beware of the ones who *preach* their false teachings under the guise of Christ. They will lead you astray. When reading anything written by man, take the time to find out the facts, to find out how they came to their conclusions, and to how they present their facts. When someone begins telling you that They and They alone have the Truth on their side, be very wary of their teachings.
The only Truth that you will find is the Truth of God. |
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zao275
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Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Posts: 27
Location: New Orleans, LA USA
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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This dude is obviously seriously deluded. It almost makes me wonder if he is truly a believer of the false doctrine he teaches, or rather just some bored and miserable soul attempting to warp the minds of those who truly believe. Excuse my harshness, but this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Remember how this post was started? "I'm a pastor" Pastor of the Aryan Chuch or Nazi Nazerenes? Good job Phin. Thomas, you know what the OT says about false prophets, don't you? You are precaching a doctrine of race for salvation? Don't you get it? We are freaking GENTILES!!! The "holy race" during Christ's time despised us. We are descended from the barbarian tribes that invaded Europe. We are certainly not "holy" by our ethnicity or race.
Oh yes, and what about Arabian peoples? They are the descendents of Shem, as best we can tell. Are they also the Holy Race? I"m also curious, how is it again that you have determined that all of today's Jews are Japhethites, but at the time of Christ they were Semites? I hope you have some mitochondrial DNA to back that one up.
Also, how do you define race? Skin color? I can tan pretty well in the summer. Descent? Again, you got some DNA? Biological indentifiers (marked anatomical differences, etc?). No, not that. Race is not a biological entity. It is social. It is used for control. I'm a medical student, and we were just talking about this recently. In fact, there is more genetic diversity between individuals of each "race" than there is between the genetic "means" of two races. In other words, two random white guys may have more genetic difference between them than the whole white race has on average compared to the black race on average. Does this make sense? The point is, we are one species. There are many variations and subtypes, but the lines are all blurred. Even the ethnic descent, that you seem so fond of, is blurred and mixed. I bet you have some ancestors that would make you cringe. Barbarians, non-Semitic, pagans. Who knows? But how can you honestly reject what Paul says about "neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ". He loves us all man. |
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zao275
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Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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Location: New Orleans, LA USA
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And another thing, though I'm sure you don't care: What about Greeks? MacArthur indicates that they were probably the descendents of Javan. Do you know who Javan's daddy was? Yep, our old buddy Japheth. I bet alot of us have some Greek blood running through our veins. And any Italians...if Virgil was right about Aeneas the Trojan (who were related to the Greeks, Myceneans, Argives, or whatever else Homer may call them) fleeing to Latium and settling in Rome, then guess what, Italians are probably "mongrels" too! (To all my fellow Biblical Christians, I hope you see the cynicism in some of these remarks! I'm making a point, not teaching such absurd false doctrine).
Also, you mention Ezra 9+10. Big deal! Fo one thing, the tribal cultures of 5th century BC Canaan were very tight knit. The people were raised with there gods and traditions and usually stayed with them. To do otherwise surely meant death or excommunication. God did not want the Israelites to be pulled away from His plan for them: to give ALL nations hope through the seed of Abraham (Jesus Christ). Besides, the Jews needed no help with apostasy; they were pretty good at that anyway. So the pagan wives were forbidden due to their RELIGION, just as the NT reaffirms with "Unequally Yoked" doctrine. And here to prove my point, our good friend Ezra:
| Quote: | "...the uncleaness of the peoples of the lands, with their abominations which have filled it from one end to another with their impurity. NOW THEREFORE, do not give your daughters as wives for their sons..."
Ezra 9:11 NKJV Emphasis Mine |
So it in context, we see that the ABOMINATIONS of the people were the reason that the Jews were not to intermarry with them. I think everyone here sees this but you, Thomas. I understand that you may have a conviction against inter-racial marriage, and that's fine. Everyone has personal convictions. But to take your own conviction and try to force it on others as the Word of God is not only messed up, but it is futile. It just gets people pissed off because you are not just stating your opinion, you are crusading about some racial supremist agenda when you can't even prove who you are descended from! In all seriousness, maybe you should pray with a humble heart to discern if you and your beliefs are truly in accordance with God's will and Word. And I will do the same, I assure you. May the Lord lead us both to the Truth. |
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Dshadna
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Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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zao275 Here here....*clapping*
Thank you for trying to explain to Thomas what we have all been trying to explain to him also.
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Dshadna
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Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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| Thomas Brodnicki wrote: | Feel free to ignore the Word of God and distort it at your own peril. The freedom is temporary. I have given you God's crystal clear positions on miscegenation and homosexuality. Your arguments stopped making sense long ago. Revelation 21:8
I strongly urge anyone examining this thread in the future to completely ignore anyone's opinion and prove the facts from your own Bible with a good concordance. |
Paul's words in Timothy 3:16: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." But the balance of this oft-quoted verse somehow always gets left out. It reads: "...and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." "Reproof" means to "strongly disapprove" and "correction" needs no explanation. And so what Paul is really saying here is that even though scripture may be inspired by God, it is certainly open to all kinds of interpretations and corrections. |
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RevJP
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Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2003 6:51 am Post subject: Why |
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I just started reading this thread and after the first page I quit.
What amazes me is that y'all are still posting to this vomitous thread. Let the maggots devour the dead flesh and concentrate your hearts on the work of the Lord.
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Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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Lestat de Lioncourt
Cobra
Joined: 03 Apr 2003
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Location: New Orleans, LA
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