Have we become too passive?

golfjack · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: reply

Your forgiven Nobby. You see, the devil knows it's his time pretty soon to be chained up. We need to stand up to him with the power of the Holy Spirit. I think that he is having his way and trying to wipe us out because he doesn't want the lost to be saved, and some Christians to be part of the end time apostacy. Just look at what is going on the world now. He is having his way, but not with me.

May God bless, golfjack

lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

golfjack you know that verse about Michael disputing with Satan over the body of Moses..

I'll find it..hold on..

got it..

Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

and are we stronger in our own might than Michael??

golfjack,
I went back over the posts, and this One sentence here:

Nobby · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

Jack, thank you bro, I know that it was Satan! I made that post quickly, the Spirit immediately convicted me of the sin. I hurried to remove it, but you had already posted! God is an awsome God!
Satan has already been defeated! But sometimes I open my mouth & insert Satan! Sad

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Nobby · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject:

Thanks "P" Very Happy

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lone-traveler · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject:

I think Satan just climbs right in there Nobby... Rolling Eyes

I was too hasty too and apologize Jack..

why are we always jumping to conclusions? man sometimes I just wanna kick myself..
But it's good you know, next time we'll be more careful.

There's a reason for everything...and usually a lesson to be learned indeed.. Embarassed

God Bless
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Gabbylittleangel · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject:

Gabbylittleangel · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject:

golfjack,
I believe that one of the ways that we have become too passive, is in our fellowship. With all of the passages that tell us to preach the gospel to the lost, we sometimes overlook the ones that tell us to avoid some people. I believe that far too often the church is in this fellowship with the wrong sort of people.

Psalms 1:1 Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

Do you see the church taking counsel from the ungodly today?

Rom 16:17-18 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them...

1Cr 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

Titus 3:9-11 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

It troubles me sometimes to read through the board, and see endless debates between Christians and non-believers. Sad

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golfjack · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: reply

I have noticed this situation for a long time now Angel. Actually, I don't really think debating with Believers or unbelievers in this board is healthy for us. It sure does not produce Love. Sometimes I feel that I am not doing a good job here. Much interference, if you know what I mean. It could be my fault because at times I come off as preachy, but this is what I do as a son of God, who serves God. I know what my calling is. In Church or out of Church, I like to preach the Gospel to the lost.

We do have to deal with the lost, but doesn't the Bible say not to associate with them? I think there is a real fine there. The Church that I belong to has no real problems because most of them are willing to do the work of Christ. Our main goal is to win our city over to Christ one at a time.

Oh, I have visited other churches from time to time. Many to me are dead churches. I think you know how I feel about liberal and legalistic churches. How in the world can you call a church that has people in there, who are gay, live together without being married, and publically display this ungodliness, a Church? Also, there are way too many who go to church who are not saved? Could it be an evil spirit there? I think in part, this is the answer to what the parable of the ten virgins means. One more thing. Have you ever considered JW'S, Mormons, and other far out denominations WICKED SERVANTS.

I could go on and on, but Bottom line, the Church must do a better job of preaching to the lost. This should be our first love.

May God bless, golfjack

golfjack · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: reply

Are there any here, who don't know for sure if they are saved? Do you have a mental assent of being saved and really haven't confessed this out of you mouths. Do you really feel secure in your relationship with God? If you said yes to one of these questions, would you say this little prayer with me?

Father God, I want to be saved. You said in your Word, Whosoeverr shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Rom. 10:13). I believe with all my heart that Jesus died, was buried, and was raised from the dead. I admit I am a sinner. I repent of my sin. I invite You into my Heart Jesus. I make You my Lord and Savior. Now, I have become the righteousness of God in Christ, and I am saved. If you have said this, I believe for sure you are in the family of God. Thank You Lord.

May God bless, golfjack

Gabbylittleangel · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: reply

lone-traveler · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject:

Lots of thoughts Gabby..

I know one way is by example. Sometimes we can talk to people by not talking at all, just walking with them. Letting them know someone cares about them, not by word but by just being there.
Did Jesus go from town to town saying I am Jesus believe in me and you will have eternal life?

I think it was more like, hey who is this guy? where did he come from? why does he act the way he does? why does he care about me?

And Jesus lives his life through us. So, how should we act? how should we talk? what should we say? why should we about about them?

Then maybe that curiosity, that wondering, opens the door for them to approach you.

Jesus says, come unto me all ye that are heavy laden and I will give you rest.

So we see Jesus reaching out but not with trumpets blaring, more gentle and meek as a lamb.
And the people are told to come to him, and they do because they like what they see and hear and it comforts them.
This comfort is what draws them.

If we go with a hammer, your gonna get hammered.
If you go with a gift, your gonna get gifts.
In this case the gift is the one coming to Jesus that you have "fished" out of the world.

Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

When you go fishing, you make a lot of noise? or are you are quiet as can be?
I think this is what meekness is. Gentle and peaceful like a lamb.

Well that's my two cents Gabby
God Bless
Lone

One more penny..lol
You know how it says Proclaim it on the housetops!! Blow the trumpets in Zion!!
This loudness, this trumpeting isn't in the power of the words, it's in the power of our deeds.
They see in you the GLORY!! of the Lord!
It's SHINES brighter than the sun.

So come in meekness with your lips, But radiate from within.

ok sshhshn now
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golfjack · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: reply

Lone is right about showing a good example. If they see something in you that they like, it might open the doors of heaven for them. They might see that you got a raise at work, and wonder why they didn't. They might see how much you love your wife or husband, and your family full of love. Most people really want inner peace. They just don't know how to achieve it. Then, You can tell them what Jesus has done in your life. We should always be open for an opportunity to evangelize. Always recognize that we are earthern vessels, and it is the Holy Spirit, who convicts. I always pray before I go street evanglizing. You want to get prayed up before you go out.

I think the biggest hindurance to our witness is being afraid of rejection. Always come to the lost with love and compassion like Jesus did. When in Church, we should see to it that we are happy and really answer questions that they may have. This is the attitude I try to take with me.

I don't know Angel if your are in the five-fold Ministry, but I try my best to preach a good message, and don't hit them with you are going to hell if you don't repent. People come to church for a reason. They are looking for something that they don't have. A good testimony is good tool. A sense of humor goes a long way. I have always marveled at Billy Graham. He sure has the anointing to preach. He may not be a Pentacostal like me, but I really think he does a good job. I believe we can come up with a message that reaches the lost. Just go with the flow of the Holy Spirit. Sometimes I prepare something, and preach something else.

Anyway, these are some of my thoughts. Maybe next time we can discuss how to approach people who belong to what I call Christian cults. Very difficult job, but many sit in church pews and are not saved. For example, one might say I am OK, I am water baptized or my church can save me. What are your thoughts guys?

May God bless, golfjack

Gabbylittleangel · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:

Exodus 2:23 ¶ And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
Exodus 2:24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.
Exodus 2:25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto [them].
Exodus 3:16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and [seen] that which is done to you in Egypt:

Gen 18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
Gen 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.

Psalms 121:4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.

Exclamation

Here is my suggestion for becoming a bit more pro-active and a little less passive .

Invite God to come and visit your city. Invite God to visit the systems that control and put people into bondage. Invite God to visit the political system, the judicial system, the media, the cities that are notorious for sin. Invite Him to search cyberspace and delete anything that is not pleasing to Him. Be bold in your prayers. God is a righteous judge. Brace yourself as you watch His response. Things that you thought to be beyond redemption will turn around. Things that you thought not to be so bad will be brought to nothing.
Give the Lord of creation a list of things that are wrong, then ask Him to make it right. He watches. He listens. He changes things.

Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry [with the wicked] every day.

Acts 13:22...I have found David... a man after mine own heart...
The Lord Jesus told us to pray for our enemies. Ought we not pray for our enemies the way David prayed for his?
Psalms 74:10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name for ever? Psalms 74:20 Have respect unto the covenant: for the dark places of the earth are full of the habitations of cruelty.
It is so easy to spend time before the judge of all Creation. Enter His gates with thanksgiving in your heart. Come into His courts with praise. Come boldly unto the throne of grace.
Phl 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
~OR~
James 4:2 ... ye have not, because ye ask not.
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lone-traveler · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject:

Good post Gabby

God Bless
Lone
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