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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: Warren Buffet... |
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Here's a great one... Warren Buffet is giving away billions of dollars, and in so doing is objectively making the world a better place, and some idiot priest is calling him the 'Dr. Mengele of Philantropists' because some of that money is going to support Planned Parenthood...
CHECK LINK
I think the guy's just jealous because all of Buffet's billions are going to do more good than he could ever hope to do... |
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FFT Emperor of the Galaxy
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Countdown to True Christian outrage expressed here: |
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Nobby Board - Admin
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Flashman Pit Bull
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| Nobby wrote: | 10....9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...  |
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RevJP Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Another peice of stuff which I find it difficult to care about... |
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intimation Little Guppy
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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P1234567890 wrote:
| Quote: | | I think the guy's just jealous because all of Buffet's billions are going to do more good than he could ever hope to do... |
Yup, billions of dollars, definately makes more cents, than the good that one man "...could ever hope to do..." perhaps more good, buffet's billions will do, than all the men, who ever walked the earth, including the buffet boy himself!
Money, the root of all philanthropy.
may we all follow, eyes wide open, minds slammed shut!
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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | Another peice of stuff which I find it difficult to care about... |
I think you should care; doing good deeds is important, and those billions of dollars are going to translate into many, many, many good deeds. We should all hope to do so much good. |
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RevJP Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| So how does that equate to me caring what some priest has to say about it? The money is being given to good causes isn't it? What is so important to me about someone not agreeing with it? |
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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | So how does that equate to me caring what some priest has to say about it? The money is being given to good causes isn't it? What is so important to me about someone not agreeing with it? |
I thought that it was relevant to this discussion board. Christians are supposed to try to make the world a better place, and finally here is someone who is doing more than ANYONE to make a positive impact, but there seems to be no pleasing some people, such as the Christian priest who outrageously likened Buffet to Dr. Mengele, who was a total monster.
It would have been outrageous enough if he just complained a little about him. But calling him Dr. Mengele really shows how crazy some people are. |
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RevJP Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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So what you are saying is that ALL christians should be held accountable for the opinions of one man? All christians should hold the same view or jump up and denounce that view if they do not agree with it?
What about athiests, do all athiests agree on all things? Why not? Shouldn't they form together and denounce the opinions of those athiests who do not agree with the rest?
| Quote: | | such as the Christian priest | He is a Roman Catholic Priest, is this an error on your part or are you trying to twist reality to fit your contrived argument? |
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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | So what you are saying is that ALL christians should be held accountable for the opinions of one man?
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Nope. But I'm guessing that these aren't just the 'opinions of one man'. I'm guessing that a whole lot of anti-abortionists dislike Bill Gates and Warren Buffet because of their support for Planned Parenthood.
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All christians should hold the same view or jump up and denounce that view if they do not agree with it?
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Not really, but it would be good if other Christians stood up and defended the good work that Buffet is doing when an idiot goes and compares him to Dr. Mengele... But I see that you already did exactly this, so I'm really not complaining about you.
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What about athiests, do all athiests agree on all things?
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No, of course not, but certainly the spectrum of atheistic beliefs is MUCH more unified than the spectrum of Christian beliefs.
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Why not? Shouldn't they form together and denounce the opinions of those athiests who do not agree with the rest?
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If the views held are crazy enough, then yes. You show me an example of an atheist saying crazy things (somewhere on par with calling Warren Buffet Dr. Mengele), and I'll jump on the band wangon denouncing him.
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He is a Roman Catholic Priest, is this an error on your part or are you trying to twist reality to fit your contrived argument? |
No, I am aware that he is Roman Catholic, but that makes him a Christian, and this place is called bible-discussion.com, so I thought that his viewpoint was fair game for my criticism. I even managed to put it into the right forum! |
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RevJP Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Nope. But I'm guessing that these aren't just the 'opinions of one man'. I'm guessing that a whole lot of anti-abortionists dislike Bill Gates and Warren Buffet because of their support for Planned Parenthood. |
So your whole post and argument is based on assumptions you made and not on the actual article you referenced?
contrivance?
| Quote: | | Not really, but it would be good if other Christians stood up and defended the good work that Buffet is doing when an idiot goes and compares him to Dr. Mengele... | How do you know they haven't? Have you searched for dissenting opinions to this article?
| Quote: | | No, of course not, but certainly the spectrum of atheistic beliefs is MUCH more unified than the spectrum of Christian beliefs. | This is neither here nor there, but it is also another unsupported assumption. From what I have seen atheists have one believe in common - that there is no God, and Christians have numerous beliefs in common. However, like I said; this is neither here nor there.
| Quote: | | No, I am aware that he is Roman Catholic, but that makes him a Christian, | I guess that depends on how loosely you want to define Christian, however it still does not change the fact that he is not a Christian Priest, he is a Roman Catholic Priest (or did you miss that reference in your article?) |
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P1234567890 Emperor of the Universe
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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RevJP, I think you're misinterpreting the intent of my post. I'm not trying to make the argument that this priest is an idiot, and therefore all Christians are bad. I was just trying to highlight an example of religious beliefs going awry.
If you ever see an article describing an atheist whose non-religious beliefs cause him to say something terrible, by all means feel free to post a link to it. |
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FFT Emperor of the Galaxy
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| RevJP wrote: | | Quote: | | such as the Christian priest | He is a Roman Catholic Priest, is this an error on your part or are you trying to twist reality to fit your contrived argument? | Remember when I mentioned True Christian outrage? |
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RevJP Moderator
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| P123 wrote: | | If you ever see an article describing an atheist whose non-religious beliefs cause him to say something terrible, by all means feel free to post a link to it. | Unless something drops in my IN box, I doubt I will take the time to search out things like that to post.
| FFT wrote: | | Countdown to True Christian outrage expressed here: | Wasn't this concerning the original post? or are you applying it to all the nuances, twists, and turns, of the discussion? |
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