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golfjack
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Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: arizona
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 Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: reply |
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Fake, your statements are ridiculous. Why would you want to riducule what Jesus did on the cross. Furthermore, it is pretty stupid to say that God would be in favor of abortion and all the liberals in the US. have in their agenda.
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Drewgie
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Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | | Furthermore, it is pretty stupid to say that God would be in favor of abortion and all the liberals in the US. have in their agenda. |
I severely doubt he is in favor of all the conservatives in the U.S have in their agenda either.
As far as prayer in public schools, its only illegal for teachers to pray or teach scripture in the class or for prayer/scripture to be recited over the PA. Kids can pray silently all they want.
The ten commandments being out in public is silly. The law is written on our hearts according to the Bible, if we need a constant public reminder (which I doubt people stop and read every time they walk past it in the courthouses) that we shouldn't murder, lie, steal, etc. then we have a problem indeed. Even if they were posted in public it certainly wouldn't lower the crime rate in this country.
Then the pledge. Oh brother. Kids memorize it, they rarely think about it. I think the whole thing needs to be done away with. Honestly, it promotes blind patriotism with no critical thought as to the consequences. Furthermore it is borderline idolatry to the flag.
Get it out of your head that this is a Christian country. It isn't. So many people think we're living in a godly country when it's really quite the opposite. Like Jesus said, the kingdom of God is within us, it isn't a literal kingdom/country. Stop supposing we are God's favorites because we are materially blessed.
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FFT
Emperor of the Universe
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 6337
Location: Memphis
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| golfjack wrote: | | America has many liberals that contribute to the moral decay of America. |
America has plenty of conservatives that contribute to the moral decay of America.
When you use vague words to describe numbers, your statement is useless.
| golfjack wrote: | | No prayer in public schools |
No student has been kicked out of class for praying in a nondisruptive way. The only thing that isn't allowed is disruptive praying. That means teachers can not pray to their students, that means students can not actively involve other students in prayer. If they want to pray, most schools have a moment of silence in the morning. No one is stopping them from praying.
Get this through your head, as I am tired of explaining this to you.
| golfjack wrote: | | no 10 commandments displays on public property |
How is this moral decay? Christians don't even follow the ten commandments!
| golfjack wrote: | | favor abortion |
Hey, prove it's murder and maybe you'll have a point.
| golfjack wrote: | | favor same-sex marriage |
"Willing to permit" is not equivalent to "favor."
| golfjack wrote: | | blame America for all the problems of the world |
 what
Maybe in exaggeration (or the actual crazies which are a part of any party), but America is responsible for quite a few of the problems of the world. It's certainly responsible for most of its own problems.
| golfjack wrote: | | want to take God out of the pledge |
Not all liberals care about this. Those that do simply wanted reverted to its pre-1950s state, which did not include the "under God." It was added during a religious revival in the 50s, just like postmen not coming on Sundays. The phrase actually messes up the rhythm of the pledge itself.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
| golfjack wrote: | | and many other things like the ACLU. |
The ACLU defends people when their civil liberties are being threatened, regardless of how or why. The ACLU has offered to defend Phelps, for crying out loud.
Why do you hate civil liberties?
| golfjack wrote: | | As a result, we have more crime |
Crime has gone down over the last 30 years.
| golfjack wrote: | | teenage gangs |
There have always been teenage gangs.
| golfjack wrote: | | like the shootings at schools |
There have always been shootings at schools, it is simply more sensationalized by the media today.
| golfjack wrote: | | no respect for parents |
This is because the parents are not worthy of respect.
| golfjack wrote: | | high school drop outs |
There have always been high school dropouts. Hey, remember that No Child Left Behind initiative that George Bush wanted? Did that ever happen? Beams and motes?
| golfjack wrote: | | don't know right from wrong |
Failing of the parents.
| golfjack wrote: | | don't take responsibility for themselves. |
Failing of the parents.
| golfjack wrote: | | The liberals seem to think that all one has to do is throw money at problems |
You realize this is exactly what Bush is doing, right?
And what makes you think that liberals think this?
| golfjack wrote: | | Can't say God or Jesus Christ for fear of offending the Atheists. |
Any atheist that gets offended when someone says God or Jesus Christ needs to get the stick out of their bum.
| golfjack wrote: | | I have talked to some atheists and say to them if you don't like it, than move to another country. |
Do you understand what the words "free country" mean? Do you understand the purpose of democracy?
| golfjack wrote: | | Does that answer your question FFT? |
You didn't answer my questions, you preached. Like most preaching, you glossed over the reality of the subjects you were talking about. Not even necessarily intentionally, but I've called you on this before, to no response. |
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golfjack
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Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: arizona
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: reply |
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You guys just don't get. Suggest you read the book surrounded by idiots. Don't yopu think for one minute we are not held accountible to God for our votes. Drewgie, You should no better to put your own spin on it. I chose to believe God, and if He said it, I believe it, and that just settles it.
May God bless, golfjack |
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FFT
Emperor of the Universe
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 6337
Location: Memphis
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | | You guys just don't get. |
No, you don't get it.
Feel free to respond to anything I've said if you can. |
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golfjack
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Location: arizona
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: reply |
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It is pretty hard to respond about Godly things to someone who doesn't believe in God.
May God bless, golfjack |
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lone-traveler
Emperor of the Universe
Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I chose to believe God, and if He said it, I believe it, and that just settles it. |
amen
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FFT
Emperor of the Universe
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| golfjack wrote: | | It is pretty hard to respond about Godly things to someone who doesn't believe in God. |
Sure.
However, politics have absolutely nothing to do with God. "Render unto Caesar," remember? |
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Nobby
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| GolfJack wrote: | | I chose to believe God, and if He said it, I believe it, and that just settles it. |
Amen! Again!
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RND
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Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 725
Location: Victorville, California, USA Corporate
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | The information you gave me is based on false assumptions, and is not factual. Also, these sites are very liberal and believe liberalism is going to destroy America. Yes, the Bible says there will be mockers during the last days, and go ahead and mock God. The Bible says that God will not be mocked.
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Sir, I'm not mocking God. I too believe Jesus will return soon, just not silently as you do.
So I suppose I'm mocking your complete acceptance of patently false doctrine.
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RND
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | no 10 commandments displays on public property |
I thought the law was dead. How convenient to mention the law when it is molded to fit your arguement.
Golfjack, I don't suppose you're a Sabbath keeper?
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RND
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Saw this from another post, dated May 17, 2006.
| Quote: | I am a new creature in Christ Jesus. The Bible says I have dominion over sin. God raised us up with Christ, and seated us with Him in the Heavenly realms in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:6). There are many In Christ realities in the Epistles (about 200). Therefore, I view the real me as not a sinner, and the old me has passed away. I view the 10 commandments as love commands from God for our own good. I believe the best way to grow in Christ is to renew our minds in the Word of God. We all can miss the mark, but we have a God of mercy who is just to continually cleanse from all unrighteousness by using 1 John:9. I believe if we continually call ourselves sinners, we stand a good chance of sinning. Again, I am a New Creature in Christ Jesus.
May God bless, golfjack |
golfjack, I don't want to hinder your growth in any way, nor do I want to diminish your faith or your belief's in a condesending or rude mannor. If I have in any way, I appologize.
I am simply opposed to error.
I would like to help you understand the error of the majority view of the modern Christian churches and theology.
Remember, wide is the path of destruction and thus the danger of accepting the majority view.
I hope we can become friends.
David
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Gabbylittleangel
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Joined: 02 Jul 2006
Posts: 173
Location: Florida
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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| golfjack wrote: | It is pretty hard to respond about Godly things to someone who doesn't believe in God.
May God bless, golfjack |
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
There are plenty of other fields in need of laborers, once you shake off the dust. golfjack, Let the Lord guide you in this matter. (I am preaching to myself as well.)
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