Modern Homosexuality is not condemned in the bible.

lone-traveler · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:26 am Post subject:

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination

thou shalt not lie:

Hebrew for 07901

Pronunciation Guide
shakab {shaw-kab'}

TWOT Reference Root Word
TWOT - 2381 a primitive root
Part of Speech
v
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to lie down

a) (Qal)

1) to lie, lie down, lie on

2) to lodge

3) to lie (of sexual relations)

4) to lie down (in death)

5) to rest, relax (fig)

b) (Niphal) to be lain with (sexually)

c) (Pual) to be lain with (sexually)

d) (Hiphil) to make to lie down

e) (Hophal) to be laid

with mankind:

Hebrew for 02145

Pronunciation Guide
zakar {zaw-kawr'}

TWOT Reference Root Word
TWOT - 551e from 02142
Part of Speech
n m, adj
Outline of Biblical Usage
n m

1) male (of humans and animals)

adj

2) male (of humans)

as with:

Hebrew for 04904

Pronunciation Guide
mishkab {mish-kawb'}

TWOT Reference Root Word
TWOT - 2381c from 07901
Part of Speech
n m
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) a lying down, couch, bier, act of lying

a) couch, bed

b) act of lying, lying down or sleeping room, bedroom

c) lying down (for sexual contact)

womankind:

Hebrew for 0802

Pronunciation Guide
'ishshah {ish-shaw'}

TWOT Reference Root Word
TWOT - 137a from 0376 or 0582
Part of Speech
n f
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) woman, wife, female

a) woman (opposite of man)

b) wife (woman married to a man)

c) female (of animals)

d) each, every (pronoun)

it is abomination:
Hebrew for 08441

Pronunciation Guide
tow`ebah {to-ay-baw'} or to`ebah {to-ay-baw'}

TWOT Reference Root Word
TWOT - 2530a act part of 08581
Part of Speech
n f
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable

a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)

b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

So what is God saying here?

If you will be my people and follow my laws then you won't do this thing. And to him that follows my laws and my ways, then for him it is an abomination to God to do it.

So I suppose if you want to go do your own thang, than by all means knock yourself out. And those who choose to follow God will refrain.

This is what God says....These are his rules and his laws.

decide for yourselves whether you will obey or not.

too bad if i'm not politically correct, but this world's policies are not my priority.

If one chooses to disobey the law, then it shows that one is not sincere in following God with all their heart.

Am I perfect? hell no.
but the things I can follow I will, and the things I have trouble with I pray for help with.
But if I can change something and be more in line with what God tells me is right, then I would not just do it anyways just for rebellious sake.

Some people this will be a test for them, I suppose it will be just as difficult for them to stop doing whatever it is their doing wrong, just as hard as it is for me to stop doing what I know I'm doing wrong.
But it doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort and try.

This is works, and by faith in God that he will look at our attempts to follow him, he will have mercy on our souls.

You don't just sit back and say I screwed up and somebody else paid the penalty so now I don't have to do anything..I'm free...

That's sick...sick...sick...

You take that gift and stomp on it, mangle it, and rip it to shreds..and you wonder why God is coming with vengeance and wrath...

And not just for this alone, but for all those things that we don't attempt to make better, as an individual and as a whole human race.

why is homosexuality a sin?
Because God said so...
You either believe it or you don't.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

that means your taking your own life in your own hands,and covering yourself in your own blood, and you will be found guilty.

sticking peanut butter in your ears isn't going to change a dam thing.

It is the outward appearance of an inner spiritual truth. And if you can't do that which is obvious and plain, then how do you suppose you will ever be able to do that which is by faith and not by sight....

Exd 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the LORD that healeth thee.

need I say AIDS?

does any deny that AIDS is most commonly transferred through homosexual realationships, not to mention fornication, Adultery....

If you don't play with fire then the chances of getting burned are decreased no?

If you don't give a dam about yourselves at least show some compassion for the babies who are being born into this world with that disease lovingly handed down to them from their parents......

I'm irritable... #evil

you stick with what the world says is good...I'll stick with what God says is good....

Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
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Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

summertime · Rattlesnake Joined: 21 Aug 2003 Posts: 447

FFT · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

summertime · Rattlesnake Joined: 21 Aug 2003 Posts: 447

Fake · Tiger Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862

I still contend that the bible quote specifies that you're not to have anal sex with women.

The text doesn't say you should not lie with men, it says you should not lay with men as you lay with women.

Fake
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.”

FFT · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject:

Flashman · Pit Bull Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: MO

Fake · Tiger Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862

I wouldn't say I'm a dolt, more a radical liberal Smile

If I read the Bible, said to be the inerrant word of God, then I will read it as such.
And when the Bible specifies I'm not to have sex with a man as I am with a woman, this is the conclusion I reach.
Why?
Because we've got the message that we are to have sex with women only in the way where it's possible to concieve, thus we're not to have anal sex with women, as that's reserved to men.

Or are you saying that the Bible encourages anal sex between a man and a woman?

Fake
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.”

Fake · Tiger Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 862

The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals...
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision.

Fake
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.”

summertime · Rattlesnake Joined: 21 Aug 2003 Posts: 447

John R Nolan · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: homosexuality is sin

The line of debate put forward by the person suporting "MODERN" homosexuality, and suggesting homosexuals were punished for NOT displaying HOSPITALITY is quite humourous
Does this arguement logically follow through to modern murder, adultry, pedophilia, robbery, lying, stealing etc.?
If so, nobody has any thing to worry about and we will all go to heaven
I think someone is using reasonably poor logic or some sort of dangerous medicatiion