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Silver Surfer
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 Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| metothezero wrote: | | Quote: | | Jesus said..."IF..you love me ..keep 'MY' commandments", (John 14:15). |
PT, we've been over this before, YES Jesus says keep MY Commandments, but as you yourself admitted, NOWHERE does it say that HIS Commandments are restricted to the ten and the ten only. ..... |
You're right.
When Jesus Christ comes again......those who eat UNclean things such as Pork, Shrimp. ect.....will be destroyed also (Isaiah 66:15-17)....
66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
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Sky
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, first I thought I'd throw out this one that says if these two are followed there are no other laws that must be followed:
| Quote: | | Luke 10:27-28, "And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live." |
But, then, I thought that might just lead to an argument so I thought of this one:
| Quote: | | Galatians 5:14, "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." |
That might be too simplistic, I thought, for the mind of man begs more so this one popped into mind:
| Quote: | | Galatians 5:18, "But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law." |
Well, that one was really far too simplistic sounding so, then, this one came to mind:
| Quote: | | 1 Corinthians 8:8-9, "But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." |
And it seemed to add more relevence to the issue at hand, particularly, with respect to:
| Quote: | | 1 Corinthians 8:11-12, "And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ." |
Whereupon, I decided as long as they believe in the very basics of salvation, that Jesus died that they, as a believer in and on the name of Jesus, that this very simple fact, then they would live; in the which, it is irrelevent what other restrictions they might desire to place on their own selves. So I decided to drop it at that point. Which, I supppose, is another way of saying to any member of any denomination,
| Quote: | | Philippians 2:12, "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." |
For, surely, in the end, we can agree, seeing as Jesus came to fulfill the law it is He, not the law, that ultimately we must follow. |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Sky wrote: | | For, surely, in the end, we can agree, seeing as Jesus came to fulfill the law it is He, not the law, that ultimately we must follow. |
Only those who love Jesus Christ will keep the 10 commandments......
"IF..you love me, keep my commandments", (John 14:15)
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Sky
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | | Sky wrote: | | For, surely, in the end, we can agree, seeing as Jesus came to fulfill the law it is He, not the law, that ultimately we must follow. |
Only those who love Jesus Christ will keep the 10 commandments......
"IF..you love me, keep my commandments", (John 14:15) |
In keeping the two Jesus gave not only those ten but (for the Jews) keeping all the other 600 odd laws have been kept but as long as you are happy putting yourself under the law following your blind legalistic approach then have at it as that is your enslaving choice. Besides the management prefers cults and humanists to Christians anyway so what we have to say means nothing anyway. |
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Sky wrote: | | ...but as long as you are happy putting yourself under the law |
Only people who break God's commandments are under the Law.....which results in eternal death !
Those who keep Godf's Law, love Him !
| Quote: | | ...following your blind legalistic approach then have at it as that is your enslaving choice. Besides the management prefers cults and humanists to Christians anyway so what we have to say means nothing anyway. |
OK, so Jesus Christ is the greatest cult leader of all time....
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now, you wouldn't deny me believing in these Bible verses, would you ?
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says.
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RND
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | | The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says. |
I've been to your website before and find it very useful and full of great information and have bookmarked it for future reference.
Keep up the good work Silver Surfer.
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says. |
I've been to your website before and find it very useful and full of great information and have bookmarked it for future reference.
Keep up the good work Silver Surfer. |
Any topic you think I should I should add...let me know, OK ?
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RND
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Silver Surfer wrote: | | RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says. |
I've been to your website before and find it very useful and full of great information and have bookmarked it for future reference.
Keep up the good work Silver Surfer. |
Any topic you think I should I should add...let me know, OK ? |
You really think you've missed some? 
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says. |
I've been to your website before and find it very useful and full of great information and have bookmarked it for future reference.
Keep up the good work Silver Surfer. |
Any topic you think I should I should add...let me know, OK ? |
You really think you've missed some? :lol: |
OH YEAH !
There is no way I could have covered every question, someone might come up with, know what I mean ?
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Silver Surfer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Silver Surfer"] | RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | RND wrote: | | Silver Surfer wrote: | | The 7th day sabbath is the sign of loyalty, towards God...as the Bible says. |
I've been to your website before and find it very useful and full of great information and have bookmarked it for future reference.
Keep up the good work Silver Surfer. |
Any topic you think I should I should add...let me know, OK ? |
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You really think you've missed some? :lol: |
OH YEAH !
There is no way I could have covered every question, someone might come up with, know what I mean ? |
Satan is incredibly clever at his attempts in the Christian world.....
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
I see, where he is actively engaged in bringing in the spiritual aspects of the sabbath rest, to abolish the physical aspects of God's 4th commandments.
In other words, many in the Christian world are now claiming to observe the sabbath rest 'spiritually', while disobeying God's exact commands, regarding the physical sabbath observance, on a certain physical day.
# 1.) Have anyone ever heard the claim, that all days, are Holy now ?
# 2.) Has anyone heard the claim, that Jesus Christ, is our sabbath now ?
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