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Mindonfire Alley Cat
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 188
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: Vaporisations |
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Vaporisation
On a previous occasion we learned that the Bible is a holy book which is endowed with three supernatural qualities. If you will recall, the first quality is its ambiguity. The Holy scriptures were purposely written to be ambiguous. This means that the verses of the Bible are capable of being understood in two or more possible senses of ways.
The second is that it has the mystical ability to deliver to the reader the message that he or she desires to see. In other words the Bible possesses the uncanny ability to test the Spirit of the reader. So as a reader wherever your heart and spirit is in respects to reality, will determine the message that you will receive during your studies.
The third quality is the Bible’s use of symbolism. The Holy Bible is symbolic in nature. As we are now aware, in symbolism a material or physical object is used as a sign to represent the immaterial or spiritual universe. Let us now take a closer look at this last quality.
We are now all aware that the Scriptures state that during his second coming Messias will return in a cloud (Rev 1:7). Unfortunately many believers have been taught that this cloud will be the mass of condensed vapors which are seen in our skies. Many do not understand that when the Scriptures speak of clouds, they are speaking symbolically of people. Let us take a look at the various meanings for the word cloud.
Definition Merriam Webster
Cloud: (n) 1 : a visible mass of particles of condensed vapor (as water or ice) suspended in the atmosphere of a planet (as the earth) or moon 2 : something resembling or suggesting a cloud: as a : a light filmy, puffy, or billowy mass seeming to float in the air *a cloud of blond hair* *a ship under a cloud of sail* b (1) : a usually visible mass of minute particles suspended in the air or a gas (2) : an aggregation of usually obscuring matter especially in interstellar space (3) : an aggregate of charged particles (as electrons) c : a great crowd or multitude : SWARM *clouds of mosquitoes*
If you will look closely at the third definition you will see that a cloud may also be; a great crowd or multitude. This is the type of cloud which the Holy Scripture is referring to. Now let us take a quick look at a verse which conveys to us this significance.
Joel.2
[1] Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
[2] A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
If you will look at Joel chap 2:2 you will see that after the author’s description of the day of the Lord ( A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: ) there is a colon. This is important because every jot and tittle in the Scriptures is significant. Let us take a look at the colon’s function.
Definition Merriam Webster
Colon: (N) 2 plural colons a : a punctuation mark : used chiefly to direct attention to matter (as a list, explanation, quotation, or amplification) that follows
As you may see one of the functions of a colon is to direct attention to an explanation or an amplification that follows the subject that is under consideration. Therefore in this verse we see that the subject, {A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains:}, followed by an explanation or amplification of that subject, {a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations}.
These are the crowds of people which inhabit heaven. In this crowd you will also find the armies of heaven which will be released to rain destruction upon the earth. These will gain victory over the Great Deceiver who has invaded the habitation of the Holy One These will come bearing Messias.
"The Two Books are One"
“You have the right to remain ignorant and refuse to gain knowledge.
Anything that you don’t know can and will be used against you in the court of Life“
Ezek.38
[9] Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
[16] And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
Dan.7
[13] I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Rev.1
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen
2Tim.2
[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. |
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lone-traveler Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 6365 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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and the storm clouds are a gathering mindonfire...
peace
lone _________________ Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. |
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RevJP Moderator

Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nice cut n paste... too bad it is mostly garbage. _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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lone-traveler Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 6365 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rev...
which parts you see as mostly garbage and which parts you see as some truth?
would you share your thoughts on this with me?
thankyou
lone _________________ Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. |
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RevJP Moderator

Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 7005 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ah lone.... where did I use the word truth? _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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lone-traveler Emperor of the Universe

Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 6365 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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and I did put words in your mouth...
I apologize.
lone _________________ Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. |
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RevJP Moderator

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: |
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 _________________ JP's Mind - my blog
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust and take refuge in the Lord than to put confidence in man. |
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Roger459 Grizzly Bear
Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 709 Location: Pinellas Park, FL, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Vaporisation ? ? ?
I cannot pass this one up! ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT VAPOR DEPOSITATION OF MATERIALS USING PLASMA GAS MIXTURE IN A VACUUM CHAMBER WITH MOLUCLES EXITATED WITH 'RF' ENERGY, WITH 13.56KHtz -or- 40. MHtz? ? ?
REALLY, "KISS" Keep It Simple Simple
1. (2Peter 1:21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2. (Hebrews 4:12-13) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
(Heb 4:13) Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
3. (John 7:38-39) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(Joh 7:39) (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
4. (John 3:5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
5. (John 6:63) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
6. (Romans 8:9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
7. (John 16:13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
SIMPLY, the Words of GOD, HOLY SCRIPTURE, were written by men, as the Holy Spirit led them to WRITE! They are LIVING WORDS, and as such, cannot be Understood by someone WHO IS NOT BORN AGAIN, [I.E.] DOES NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING THEM! The Holy SPIRIT is the Only REAL TEACHER OF THE SCRIPTURES!
Simply PUT!
Thanks, Roger R. |
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