History and Divergent Doctrines

FFT · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject:

Look. Here's Wikipedia's disambiguation page on "Proof."

Be a dear and tell me which one of those is used in science.
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TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

Did I read that right?

YOURS:Be a dear and tell me which one of those is used in science.

MINE:I'm sorry,I can't resist:Obviously your brain is not used in science.HEHE.Just kidding.Biology and chemistry are feilds in science,aren't they?
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FFT · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject:

Answer the question.

What kind of proof is used in science?
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TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

YOURS:Answer the question.

What kind of proof is used in science?

MINE:You answer my questions first.

Are you saying science cannot prove that water is made out of hydrogen and oxygen? CAN SCIENCE PROVE THIS?YES OR NO?

Let me ask you,not just to be sarcastic,but can science prove you have a brain?

I know that sounds bad,but seriously can science prove that, according to you?

Biology and chemistry are feilds in science,aren't they?
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TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFt,

I change my mind I will answer your question.That would be empirical.
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FFT · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:14 am Post subject:

I'm sorry, is this "empirical proof" you speak of mathematical, logical, or legal?
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TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

Sir,answer my questions.I have answered your,and now you are being nit picky.Look up what empirical means.I'm not going to be pigen holed into your limited catagories.
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FFT · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject:

Sorry, but you're the one that claimed science could prove things. I'm perfectly aware of what "empirical" means.

The question is, what kind of proof are you referring to: mathematical, logical, or legal?
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Theology is philosophy/ethics for people who already know what conclusion they want to come to.

TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

You answer my questions first.

Are you saying science cannot prove that water is made out of hydrogen and oxygen? CAN SCIENCE PROVE THIS?YES OR NO?

Let me ask you,not just to be sarcastic,but can science prove you have a brain?

I know that sounds bad,but seriously can science prove that, according to you?

Biology and chemistry are feilds in science,aren't they?

I understand why you won't answer.Because your answers will further prove my point that you are unreasonable.As if the rediculous statements you already made didn't already prove that.Or you will have to go against your positon that science doesn't prove anything.You lose either way.These things can be proved,but you won't admit it.

PROOF that you are unreasonable.-And that would be LOGICAL PROOF.-
I also know you won't understand this and say "there's no proof.Show me."Your evading the questions is proof.It also proves you realize your statements are not true.Otherwise you could answer.You cannot answer these questions.Prove me wrong and answer the questions.
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FFT · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

FFT · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:23 am Post subject:

Here's how it works:

Scientific discoveries can lead to logical proofs. Deductive arguments can be made using information garnered from science.

However.

These proofs are not scientific. They are not governed by science. Science can not prove anything.

Let me know if that's clear enough for you.
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Theology is philosophy/ethics for people who already know what conclusion they want to come to.

TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

YOURS:Let me know if that's clear enough for you.

MINE:Yes.Perfectly clear.You are totally unreasonable,and to explain yourself you play word games.
EXAMPLE:YOU SAID Science can't prove anything,THEN YOU SAY Scientific discoveries can lead to logical proofs.MAY I ADD Science also deals with mathmatical proofs,as is evident in how fusion works.And as is evident in how a circle or sphere is measured.
Well how did we come to those logical proofs?Was it not BECAUSE of science?
Who are making these logical conclusions,or understanding these logical proofs.Do the scientists hand off their discoveries to the Logical Proof Makers?

Coming to conclusion and understanding what their discoveries are telling them IS A PART OF SCIENCE.You are being stubborn.

TBax wrote:
Let me ask you,not just to be sarcastic,but can science prove you have a brain?
YOURS RESPONCE:Science can't prove anything, so no.

MINE:I'm beginning to agree with you on that one.

TBax wrote:
Biology and chemistry are feilds in science,aren't they?
YOURS RESPONCE:No, they're something else. Of course they're fields in science, what kind of disingenious question is this?

MINE:I asked that question because you were being rediculous in not answering properly.I have to jump through hoops to get you to understand things.
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FFT · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:55 am Post subject:

TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2126

FFT,

YOURS:Why, exactly, should I relent?

MINE:Friend,obviously you are free to believe what you want.I believe you made my point,that you cannot be reasoned with .

YOURS:So tell me, how would you go about proving you had a brain, TBax?

MINE:Empirical logical proof or CAT Scan or surgery.Let me guess,are you going to say these aren't science?Don't continue to be silly about this.

YOURS:Tell me, TBax, what is it you expect me to "understand" by "admitting" that biology and chemistry are fields in science?

MINE:I don't expect YOU to understand anything anymore.

"To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead." --Thomas Paine
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FFT · Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: