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CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS?


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Roger459
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS? Reply with quote

HOW ABOUT SOME FEEDBACK?

CAN ANYONE = = KEEP ALL OF THE 10-COMMANDMENTS?

WHO CAME THE CLOSEST? AND DOES CLOSE EVEN COUNT?

Thanks, RR
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golfjack
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

I am a new creature in Christ Jesus. The Bible says I have dominion over sin. God raised us up with Christ, and seated us with Him in the Heavenly realms in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:6). There are many In Christ realities in the Epistles (about 200). Therefore, I view the real me as not a sinner, and the old me has passed away. I view the 10 commandments as love commands from God for our own good. I believe the best way to grow in Christ is to renew our minds in the Word of God. We all can miss the mark, but we have a God of mercy who is just to continually cleanse from all unrighteousness by using 1 John:9. I believe if we continually call ourselves sinners, we stand a good chance of sinning. Again, I am a New Creature in Christ Jesus.


May God bless, golfjack
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Ana
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS? Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
HOW ABOUT SOME FEEDBACK?

CAN ANYONE = = KEEP ALL OF THE 10-COMMANDMENTS?

WHO CAME THE CLOSEST? AND DOES CLOSE EVEN COUNT?

Thanks, RR


Are they that hard to follow?
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Roger459
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: CAN YOU FOLLOW HOW MANY? Reply with quote

The PURPOSE of the 10 were to give us the instruction from GOD, knowing that WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THEM FROM THE HEART!

The payment for sin, Read Liviticus, and Dueteronomy and Exodus, show us and them = HOW FAR THEY WERE AWAY!

CHRIST IS OUR PASSOVER, but they had daily sacrifices for sin! THEY ALWAYS HAD A SIN SACRIFICE ON THE ALTER!

Have you ever driven past OUTBAKCS Steak House during Dinner, and smelled the COOKING MEAT?

ISRAEL, could Always Smell = some sin sacrifice = BURNING ALL THE TIME!

(Matthew 5:28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

FOR A MAN TO LUST AFTER A WOMAN OR A WOMAN AFTER A MAN = THAT IS ADULTERY! ONE may not committ the act = BUT THE ACT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE HEART!

That is why GOD GIVES US A NEW HEART AND A NEW MIND! But HE has left the Responsibility to US!

Please look at 2Corinthians 10:3-to6 and ask yourself? Are all my thoughts = in obedience to CHRIST?

Now ask yourself, "ARE THEY THAT HARD TO FOLLOW?"

FOLLOW FROM THE HEART!

Thanks, RR
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Zathrus
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS? Reply with quote

Ana wrote:
Are they that hard to follow?
Apparently yes, since I do not know of anyone who has never lied, never coveted something someone else had, who truly loves God with all their mind, soul and strength, etc.

And as ROGER pointed out, Jesus taught that even if you did not commit the act, but wanted to, you'd broken the law. By God's standard of righteousness, even if you never lay a finger on someone, but you wish they were dead, in your heart you are a murderer. How often have each of us said "I wish so-and-so would fall off the face of the earth!"?

Thank God that His intention was never for us to have fellowship with Him based on how well we obeyed a set of rules! We live in communion with Him because of the precious sacrifice of His beloved Son.

BTW I think Mr Rogers was the one who came closest to keeping all of the Big 10. Wink
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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS? Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
HOW ABOUT SOME FEEDBACK?

CAN ANYONE = = KEEP ALL OF THE 10-COMMANDMENTS?

WHO CAME THE CLOSEST? AND DOES CLOSE EVEN COUNT?

Thanks, RR

YES !!!

The Bible shows that God has a people, who have (and will) keep all 10 commandments (including the 4th commandment, Exodus 20:8-11....the 7th day sabbath).....
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


QUESTION: Are the saints ...Christians ?

It must be remembered that those who keep all 10 commandments are doing so, with the help of Jesus Christ, gving them, GRACE (which is God's power to obey....
Romans 1:5 "By whom we have received grace...for obedience ...to the faith among all nations, for his name"
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Roger459
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: ALL TEN? NOT! Reply with quote

ARE you going to tell me that you keep the 10-C all the TIME? Perhaps you did not read what PAUL SAID? ? ?

(Rom 7:7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: = = for I had not known lust, = = except the law had said, = = Thou shalt not covet.

IF = = WE COULD KEEP THE 10-C = = THEN WE WOULD NOT NEED A SAVIOR!

(Romans 3:19-20) Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
(Rom 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law = = there shall no flesh = = be justified = = in His [GOD'S] sight: = = for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

(Galatians 3:24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

NOW = ARE YOU JUSTIFIED BY FAITH = = OR = = BY "trying" TO KEEP THE 10-C ? ? ?

Thanks, RR
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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: ALL TEN? NOT! Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
ARE you going to tell me that you keep the 10-C all the TIME? Perhaps you did not read what PAUL SAID? ? ?
You mean Paul contradicts what Jesus Christ said ?

Quote:
(Galatians 3:24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.


Quote:
NOW = ARE YOU JUSTIFIED BY FAITH = = OR = = BY "trying" TO KEEP THE 10-C ? ? ?
Ever heard of faith and works ?
Without the works, faith is dead !
James 2:14 "What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works?
can faith save him?

2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead ?"


[/quote]Do you really understand Romans 3:31 ?
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law".
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Roger459
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: RESPONSE from the WORD! Reply with quote

YOU choose not to give me an answer about YOU keeping the 10-commandments? ? ? Did you read COVET? Romans 7:7!

Did I imply that that either Jesus or Paul were in contradiction? NOT! Perhaps you should read the post again?

YOU AND OTHERS = Seem to be MIXING = Salvation by Grace and Works by Grace =AND= confusing the TWO?

Perhaps a reading of Ephesians 2:8-9-10? Do works come before = OR AFTER = Salvation? Surely Salvation can not be by WORKS = THE LAW!

IF I remember correctly, there are about 850 Laws in the Bible? IF YOU CANNOT KEEP THEM ALL = PERFECTLY = THAN YOU ARE A SINNER!

That is why = WE EACH = = NEED THE SAVIOUR, CHRIST JESUS!

No one can keep the LAW = if you don't believe me = JUST ASK THEIR MATE OR THEIR = BOY - OR = GIRL = FRIEND!

Thanks. RR
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Zathrus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: ALL TEN? NOT! Reply with quote

Silver Surfer wrote:
Do you really understand Romans 3:31 ?
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law".
We establish the law by acknowleging its true place in God's plan of salvation: it condemns all men as sinners and has no power to save. We establish it by acknowleging that because it has no power to make us righteous, we are in need of Jesus Christ, and His redemptive work is abundantly sufficient to make us righteous before God apart from the law.

If we trust in Christ and Christ alone for righteousness, we have established the law. That is supported in the very context of Romans 3:31. The very passage it is part of refutes the 7th Day Advent doctrine of Christ saving us so that we can then live under the law.

20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Open your heart to God's wonderful plan of salvation, Brother Surfer.
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Roger459
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: BOTTOM LINE. . . .! Reply with quote

(James 2:23-to-26) And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

(Jam 2:24) Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

(Jam 2:25) Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

(Jam 2:26) For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Thanks, RR
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brendan
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: CAN ANYONE = = KEEP THE 10-COMMANDMENTS? Reply with quote

[quote="ROGER459"]HOW ABOUT SOME FEEDBACK?

CAN ANYONE = = KEEP ALL OF THE 10-COMMANDMENTS?

WHO CAME THE CLOSEST? AND DOES CLOSE EVEN COUNT?

1)Yes. 2) Only The Father knows.But you can do it. 3)No. because if you break one, youve broken them all.
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ChristineS
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never thought it hard to keep the ten commandments. I won't lie and say I have never broken any of them. It is true that if you break one you break them all.
Jesus said this
Matthew Chapter 22:
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


I think those verses say it all.
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Silver Surfer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChristineS wrote:
I never thought it hard to keep the ten commandments.
Yes & No.
Keeping the 10 commandments is impossible for us, in our human strenght alone.
BUT...in God, nothing is impossible, right ?

Jesus Christ kept the 10 commandments as an example for us to follow.
He did it not in His own strenght or power, but relying upon God's power to enable Him to do so, again, as an example for us to follow.

Breaking the 4th commandment (7th day sabbath) means, those people are breaking them all !

Those people who make a practice of Sunday worship services, are commiting sin against God !
AND...they have no hope of eternal life ....UNLESS...they decide to follow Christ's example, totally......Jesus Christ said so !
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golfjack
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Silver Surfer, you speak nonsense. If you wish you can bind up yourself in Jewish Traditions.



May God bless, golfjack
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