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Paul did not reflect Jesus' compassion towards women.


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FFT
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
WHAT is the Agenda of those scholars? IF they do not CONFESS JESUS AS LORD and Savior = = then they are corrupt in their Thesis!
Mostly, they're Jewish. They study the Old Testament and the time periods it was written in. Their agenda is truth?

ROGER459 wrote:
(Numbers 23:19) God is not a man, that He should Lie; neither the Son of man, that He should repent: has He said, and shall He not do it? Or has He spoken, and shall He not make it good?
Rolling Eyes

2 Thessalonians 2:11: Consequently God sends on them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false.

Proverbs 25:2: It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter.
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Roger459
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: blessed are the peacemakers, Reply with quote

Blessed are the Peacemakers = for they shall be called = the Children of GOD!

EVEE,

I did not read anything into your posts = but what you posted! THIS WHOLE THREAD IS HERE = BECAUSE = = SOMEONE DOES NOT BELIVE THAT GOD = = WROTE THE HOLY SCRIPTURES = 2PET 2 = = BUT THAT GOD HAS ALOUD SOME MALE BIAS!

THAT IS THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT = = THE PRO-CHOICE PEOPLE USE = = ALL THE TIME = = TO SLAM THE HOLY SCRIPTURES!

Numbers 23:19) God is not a man, that He should Lie; neither the Son of man, that He should repent: has He said, and shall He not do it? Or has He spoken, and shall He not make it good?

Thanks, RR
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P1234567890
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: blessed are the peacemakers, Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
THIS WHOLE THREAD IS HERE = BECAUSE = = SOMEONE DOES NOT BELIVE THAT GOD = = WROTE THE HOLY SCRIPTURES


Prove to me that God wrote the holy scriptures. Show me a piece of physical evidence that proves it.
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FFT
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROGER459 wrote:
Numbers 23:19) God is not a man, that He should Lie; neither the Son of man, that He should repent: has He said, and shall He not do it? Or has He spoken, and shall He not make it good?
Look at the first post on the page, please.

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RevJP
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch the name calling please.
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FFT
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough.
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Man-what-a-ride
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

FFT wrote:
golfjack wrote:
Sometimes it seems like what Jesus said and what Paul said is in contradiction, but we know it can't be.
Sometimes it seems like the whole of Christianity is silly, but we know it can't be.


LOL That's right!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: blessed are the peacemakers, Reply with quote

P1234567890 wrote:
Prove to me that God wrote the holy scriptures.


You know how your gut that tightens up... That's you fighting the proof off.
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unschoolmom
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: blessed are the peacemakers, Reply with quote

Man-what-a-ride wrote:
P1234567890 wrote:
Prove to me that God wrote the holy scriptures.


You know how your gut that tightens up... That's you fighting the proof off.


You didn't...

Actually my gut tightening is due to the cream of mushroom soup I shouldn't have eaten due to a developing intolerance to lactose.

I think it's wonderful and inspiring to know that the bible is a description of men's relationship with the divine. their folk tales and myths, their histories and theology. To think God wrote it or divinely directed it's writing seems a slap in the face to the free will and imagination he gifted us with. I find no inspiration in seeing the Bible as God's instruction manual.
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FFT
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: blessed are the peacemakers, Reply with quote

Man-what-a-ride wrote:
P1234567890 wrote:
Prove to me that God wrote the holy scriptures.


You know how your gut that tightens up... That's you fighting the proof off.
I must have beaten it pretty soundly a while back, I don't recall ever feeling anything like that.
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RevJP
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can't speak for anyone's intent, but when I see such a driven aversion to something as I see from the two of you, FFT and Unschoolmom (and others), I have to think there is something more behind it.

Scripture tells us that no man seeks God. I find it difficult to beleive that if no man seeks God on his own, that a person would reject, or oppose God with such verve, on his own.

You oppose God's word, seems to me that there is a battle going on somewhere inside of you which causes that acting out.

But, like I said, I can't speak for anyone's intent, that is just how I see it.
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golfjack
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

The something behind it is the Enemy.


May God bless, golfjack
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unschoolmom
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I oppose the idea that the bible is God's word but I certainly don't oppose God or the bible.
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Gabbylittleangel
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Lord, make us one in the Spirit. Put each one of us where YOU want us to be to do what YOU want us to do. Red, or yellow, black or white, Jew or Greek, bond or free, male or female. Purge from your children the prejudice that the enemy of our soul would use to keep us from being all one in Christ Jesus. I pray in Jesus name. Amen.

Gabbylittleangel
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atoz
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul did not reflect Jesus' compassion towards women. Reply with quote

Hi FFT,

When read and understood in Love as in Love they were written,
these scripts show that paul showed the same Compassion of Love as JC showed to women:

1 Corinthians 11

5 But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered [BY LOVE OR COVERED WITH HATRED]disgraces her head, for it is one and the same thing as having a shaved head.

6 For if a woman will [IN HATE] not cover her head, she should cut off her hair.
But if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved [IN HATE], she should cover her head [WITH LOVE].

7 For a man should not have his head covered [WITH HATRED], since he is the image and glory of God.
But the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For man did not come [IN HATE] from woman,
but woman [IN LOVE] from man [AS ALL MEN HAVE COME EVERSINCE].

1 Corinthians 14

33 [...] As in all the churches of the saints,

34 the women [IN HATE OR ANY MEN IN HATE] should be silent in the churches, for they [WHO ARE IN HATE] are not permitted to speak.
Rather, let them be in submission [TO & IN LOVE], as in fact the law says [IN LOVE].

35 If they [WHO ARE IN HATE] want to find out about something, they should ask their husbands at home, because it is disgraceful for a woman [OR MAN] to speak in church [IN HATE WHERE THEY SHD BE SPEAKING IN LOVE: EPHESIANS 4:15].

Further evidence, not limited to this evidence, is:

Ephesians 5:
21Submitting yourselves one to another *in* the fear of God [that is, *IN* Love].

22Wives, submit yourselves [IN LOVE OF BEING THE MASTERS] unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23For the husband is the head [IN LOVE OF BEING THE FOOT] of the wife, even as Christ is the head [IN LOVE OF BEING THE FOOT] of the church:
and he is the saviour of the body.

24Therefore as [IN LOVE] the church is subject unto Christ,
so [IN LOVE] let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25Husbands, love your wives [AS HEAD AND AS FOOT AS YOURSELVES],
even as Christ also loved the church [AS FOOT AND ASD HEAD,A S 1ST AND AS LAST], and gave himself for it;

26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word [LOVE],

27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle [OF HATRED], or any such thing;
but that it should be holy [WITH ALL LOVE] and without blemish [OF HATRED].

28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies [OR THEIR OWN SELVES].
He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29For no man [OF GOD] ever yet hated his own flesh [OR HIMSELF];
but nourisheth and cherisheth it [IN UNCONDITIONAL LOVE], even as [IN LOVE] the Lord the church:

30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31For this cause [OF UNCONDITIONAL LOVE]shall a man leave [IN LOVE] his father and mother, and shall be joined [IN LOVE] unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh [OR ONE LOVE].

32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself;
and the wife see that she reverence her husband[AS HERSELF].

Any questions?smile

in Love,
atoz
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