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theseldomscene
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| WRONG...it was foreseen and predestinated and no the whole world is not because those in CHRIST are in the world but not of the world and you again have said nothing but your own ideas of what it should be instead of what the word says it is....this is the most silly debate that i have ever been in(well...there was the JESUS was really a future figure thing) but other than that, yme, you have provide less scripture than the mormons....what a shame.. |
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yme
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One other thing, predestination, makes Jesus dying on the stake ,of no value. The bible says it is by means of Jesus death that we have any hope of life. Why doesn't God just predestinate all of us to life and happeness, why waste all this bible stuff, death, sickness, false religions, murders. If we are predestined, we all should have all knowlege, all of us going down the same path in life. Just like robots.
I am glad I don't worship a God like that. |
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theseldomscene
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you said it out of your own mouth and your own words testify against you and you showed nothing but that you are unstudy, unread, and untaught in the word...on the other hand, you are very well versed in the confussion of the j.w. doctrine and for that i will pray for you that your eyes will be opened and you'll step out of the heresy like i was blessed to do....it happened to me when i read the bible...pleaase give it a try and don't respond by lying and saying you have because you've proven time and again with your babble that you haven't.
one last time...are you going to post scripture to support your words or are we done here? |
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yme
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what about sining. If predestination is in control of us, If we sin that cannot be our fault, it's God's fault!!
Someone could say I like immorality, I am predestined to engage in immorality all the time, it's OK, I cann't help myself. It's God's fault he made me like this. |
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yme
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I think I'm done . I told you it would not take to long.
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theseldomscene
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| yme wrote: | what about sining. If predestination is in control of us, If we sin that cannot be our fault, it's God's fault!!
Someone could say I like immorality, I am predestined to engage in immorality all the time, it's OK, I cann't help myself. It's God's fault he made me like this. |
i've already confronted that issue...rom 9:19-23....but let me guess that means something other than what is says it means also...
if you're done i am...ok nobby... you can move it over. |
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yme
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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you said I could have the last word.
I did use scripture but you turned it away. so what is the piont, of going through 20 more with the same reaction!! |
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