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lone-traveler
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: question about prophecy |
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Mt:11:13: For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
What does this mean?
If you read the prophecies of the OT they all end at John the baptist?
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joman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| lone wrote: | Mt:11:13: For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
What does this mean? |
The word "For" demands that we must take this statement in the context assigned it by Jesus.
So,
| Quote: | Matthew 11:7-15
“Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out to see? A reed shaken by the wind?
But, hat went ye out to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing live in king' houses.
But, what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto yu, and more than a prophet.
For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
And if you will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” |
It’s not for everyone to hear this. First you must have the ears to hear with, and then you must choose to hear.
We know that John the Baptist wasn’t “a reed shaken by the wind”. Which saying means that he was not given to following or bending to the force of any wind of false doctrine, or false belief, or opinion, or force of any kind whatsoever.
We know that he didn’t wear soft raiment because he wasn’t a soft man living in a soft soft world like a king or some wealthy man, because he came from the wilderness wearing camels hair and eating locusts and honey. Therefore, he was a tough man.
Was he a prophet?
Jesus says…Yes, John was a prophet.
But, Jesus tells us that John the Baptist was more than a prophet. Elias was a prophet. So, John was more than Elias was.
For one thing, John was prophesied of, and not only one who prophesied.
This alone makes him exceptionally notable.
And, the prophecy says he was amessenger who came before the face of Jesus of Nazareth who prepared the way Jesus of Nazareth was to go.
John the Baptist was born of women, just like all the sons of Adam. He isn’t therefore, from heaven in any wise. Although you might suspect him to be.
And, John the Baptist is the greatest prophet of all who are born of women. And, he was born…so, he wasn’t a man who returned in some chariot he was last seen leaving in. although you might think it possible of him.
No matter how great he is as a prophet sent from God the Father, he isn’t greater than anyone found in the kingdom of heaven.
The least child of God born not of the will of man, nor the will of flesh nor of blood is less a prophet than John the Baptist. Although it seem not so, since each Christian must exercise faith to manifest the authority and power of the sons of God and, behold, we are often so little of faith.
The kingdom suffers violence. The warfare coninues to the present hour…but, not forever. Herod took John and violently placed him in prison. And, John was surprised and even began to doubt, which he ought not to have done. But, should we critisize him? Jesus set him straight and he went forward through his tribulation. And so, we must leave that alone.
Men wrest the word of God and, twist it to achieve their own ends.
They change the words God has spoken and written down, and they applaud all that do the same.
They cast truth down in the street. But, it becomes the foundation of our highway to heaven.
What they did to Jesus they will without doubt do unto all of us that trust him and obey him. And, our time of great tribulation is coming. And, at the time of this discussion about John the Baptist…Satan had not yet been thrust out of heaven itself. Even though Satan no longer was of the kingdom of heaven since, he entered into the kingdom of his own darkness contrary to letting there be light.
And the kingdom of heaven upon earth belongs (as it were) to the violent for a time even as unto them that enter into the sheep’s fold by some way other than the door. And they steal, and kill and destroy if possible. But, woe unto them. Woe unto the tares.
All the prophets including John prophesied.
The law itself is prophetic and prophesied. In the volume of the Book it is written of Jesus Christ.
If you’re a spiritual man you can receive the news that John the Baptist was Elias who was prophesied to come. But, note that he was more than Elias of old was.
He was the herald of Jesus of Nazareth and behold, Jesus is coming again.
Joman.
Ps. I suspect more is hidden in this. |
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david2
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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joman.
quite an astute response, i must say there joman.
i like that you know that the winds are doctrines of men and that soft clothing was of the foe. nicely down.
when i read the post i gave a type of poetic sing to it.
peace my man,
David2 |
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joman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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In my previous post I mean't to say...
The least child of God born not of the will of man, nor the will of flesh nor of blood is not less a prophet than John the Baptist.
David2,
Thank you for your considerate and encouraging words.
Joman. |
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