woman's role

steven · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:38 pm Post subject: woman's role

What exactly is a woman's role in the Church, and in their home? Confused or disgusted

Ryck · Lion King Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Posts: 1020

Javan · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:37 am Post subject:

Answer the question, "What is the church's role towards Christ?" and you will have the answer to steven's question.

Woman in the Bible (especially referring to the OT) have always represented the church and her relationship with Christ. She is often treated horribly by the world, but very often she is abused and misused by those who are in leadership as well.

richardsherratt · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:38 am Post subject: Re: woman's role

Raoooul · Kitten Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 128

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

manitou · Newbie Alert Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3

Wait a minute.

Matthew 28: 5But the angel said to the women, ‘Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he* lay. 7Then go quickly and tell his disciples, “He has been raised from the dead,

John 20: But go to my brothers and say to them, “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” ’ 18Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, ‘I have seen the Lord’; and she told them that he had said these things to her.

What is the most important message in the Bible? He is risen. The resurrection. Jesus told a WOMAN (or women, depending on which gospel you pick) of the resurrection AND he told a WOMAN (or women) to go tell his disciples.

We are all disciples. Women can, and should, spread the word, as Jesus told them.

Jesus also told Martha to get out of the kitchen and come do the important stuff: listening to him, discussing his word, etc.

Paul felt that his job was to provide discipline to unorganized, diverse congregations. Paul reinforced cultural norms of the time.

Jesus radically altered the cultural norms. Jesus and Paul frequently contradict each other, in word and in spirit.

Rhythmiqchiq · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

Perhaps you could better define what the scriptures mean by submit? Could you also give a reference to where women don't teach men, and perhaps a commentary on what the scriptures mean in that reference?

theseldomscene · Banned Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 7817

can't agree with the poster that JESUS and paul contradict each other....

along with what jp said, i think you should do a study to define child, woman, man, elder. as given in the n.t. epistles.

one unskilled in the word is a babe...no matter there age or gender.

Rhythmiqchiq · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject:

Sorry for the delayed answer. I had two hours of Algebra to complete. Sad

First of all there is the order of authority in the family which God has dictated.

God
Man
Wife
Child(ren)

A woman must submit to her husband by obeying him and 'following' as oppose to 'leading'.

A woman must not teach the scriptures to men within the church/believing community.

RevJP · Moderator Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 6845 Location: USA

I'm still looking for scripture to back you up chic, you got any?

I would also like to hear more of what you think 'submit' means, scripturally.

thunder · Lion King Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222

For what it's worth ... i see " submit " as meaning " respect."

If we could all just respect one another ... that would be a start.

thunderdog

lone-traveler · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject:

A woman's role....

Tit 2:3 that aged women likewise be reverent in demeanor, not slanderers nor enslaved to much wine, teachers of that which is good;
Tit 2:4 that they may train the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 [to be] sober-minded, chaste, workers at home, kind, being in subjection to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed:

I like the part about being teachers of that which is good..
I think a lot of parents need to get more training as to how to teach and train the younger women. That would be us.

Sad how the world is making the children raise themselves today Crying or Very sad

thunder · Lion King Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1222

If a woman within the fold ... presents a correct argument or position and a man within the fold presents an error argument or position on the same matter, who rules?

Perhaps the woman should have kept quiet and the man, who's argument and position is in error, rules in error?

This is not a pro female statement, just one seeking truth.

Jesus told Martha that Mary had selected a correct ( best ) position, leaning toward Christ right beside the twelve apostles, who were in fact men. Luke 10:42

When a woman is right, she's right. When a man is wrong, he's wrong. When a woman is wrong, she's wrong and when a man is right, he's right.

It's like simple interest, it's easy to understand. Now compound interest is a festering blister caused by a saddle, with a long way still to go in that saddle!

Simple interest or compound interest, you choose?

thunder