WE ARE BABY GODS

OMEGA3 · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: WE ARE BABY GODS

As the Elect of God.

We are God's Sons

We are God's Children

We are Heirs of the Kingdom

We are Co-heirs with Christ.

Jesus was a Man

God Glorified Jesus and made him into a God.

We will be Glorified and made into Gods.

Ro 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Mt 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
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Reverend Swaggart · Tadpole Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 16

You were going good for a while, but we are not to be Gods. You have it half right about Jesus...He was a man and God in the flesh. Just more JW tripe.

FFT · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject:

"We will be Glorified and made into Gods."

Isn't that Mormonism?
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lone-traveler · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:

1 corinthians 15: 47-49

The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven.
As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust;
And as is the heavenly MAN, so also are those who are heavenly.
And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly MAN.
I dont see where it says we will be a god.

2 Corinthians 5: 1-2
For we know this that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven.
God gives us an indestructible body, but doesn't say we are a god.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is ONE God and One Mediator between God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus.
Jesus isn't a god.
Hebrews chapter 4:14 seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
now Jesus the Son of God is a High Priest, yet not a god.
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous Light:
vs 10- who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
1 John 3:1
Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.
vs:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know when He is revealed we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.
now in the book of revelations chapter 20 we see the judgement day.
verse 4: And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgement was commited to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not recieved his mark in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years
But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
vs 6: Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first ressurection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be PREISTS of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
I still don't see where it says we will be gods.
revelation 22: 3-5
And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
vs 3: And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and his servants shall serve Him.
They shall see His face, and His name shall be in their foreheads.
There shall be no night there; They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever.
so far I have found that we become: children, preists, and servants of God, but i still cant find where it says we will become gods.
can you find scripture that says we will become gods?
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Star · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject:

Lone traveler,

I found a few verses if you might be interested in...

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Jesus quotes this from

Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

Jesus continues

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

the next verses in psalms

Psalm 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Psalm 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for THOU SHALT INHERIT ALL THE NATIONS.

When Jesus quoted this is was to the Jews who were accusing Him of Blaspheming and wanting to stone Him (according to "the law") because He said He was Gods Son.

He uses this quotes psalms attributing it to them (who under the law) who believed the "lie" in the garden they were the outworking of this seed (or thought) that took root within them that they could be as gods (under the law or tree of the knowledge of good and evil)

The very thing attributed to them in scripture they were accusing Christ of who was (ofcourse) in reality Gods Son.

The whole hostility issue springs forth of the law (holding the truth in unrighteousness) and believing one is both justified and declared righteous by the law. Their hostility is against the Truth Himself. They die as mere men in their sins because righteousness never came by the law but by faith in Christ. They shall "fall" is declared because spiritually one cannot stand at all there.

Gosh I love this stuff, God is awesome Very Happy

In Him

Star

Star · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject:

lone-traveler · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:

Deut 1: 13-18

Choose wise, understanding, and knowledgable men from among your tribes, and I will make them heads over you.
And you answered me and said, The thing which you have told us to do is good. So I took the heads of your tribes, wise and knowledgable men, and made them heads over you, leaders of thousands, leaders of hundreds, leaders of fifties, leaders of tens, and officers for your tribes.
Then I commanded your judges at that time, saying, Hear the cases between your brethen, and judge righteously between a man and his brother or the stranger who is with him.
You shall not show partiality in judgement; you shall hear the small as well as the great; you shall not be afraid in any man's presence, for the judgement is God's. The case that is too hard for you, bring to me, and I will hear it.
And I commanded you at that time all the things which you should do.

Psalm 82

God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
How long will you judge unjustly, and show partiality to the wicked?
Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.
They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.
I said, You are gods,
And all of you are children of the most High.
But you shall die like men,
and fall like one of the princes.
Arise O God, judge the earth;
For you shall inherit all nations.

I'm still working on this, but I believe the term gods here refer to men being made judges and put in high authority.

If man was made a little lower than the angels, yet crowned with glory, and angels are not gods but angels, then how can men be gods if they are lower than angels.

I guess it depends on your interpretation of what a god is.
There is only One God, yet he distributes authority among his children.
Therefore if being gods refers to having been given the authority to judge then we are as gods with power and authority to judge.
However we are not as A God like God himself, for there is only One God.
This is our Father, not our equal.

Does this make sense? Shocked

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Star · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:47 am Post subject:

Lone traveler,

Amen, I agree with you, its how I see it as well

You wrote...

I'm still working on this, but I believe the term gods here refer to men being made judges and put in high authority.

The true reality is that for US there is only one God and Judge...

1Corinth 8 :5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Corinth 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

Men taking the position as judge is as assuming Gods position. Its to Him each one must give account.

Your right on lone traveler

In Him

Star

TBax · King Kong Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 2131

Just to clear something up.OMEGA 3's "We are baby gods" is not a teaching from Jehovah's Witnesses.
It does sound more like Mormanism.
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